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  1. #161
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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Yes- People attempting an encounter and failing due to learning the fight is one thing.

    Implementing an insultingly simple quest that rehashes low level content, so as to ensure zero skill required - then using RNG to determine and limit who gets prizes... that's another thing.

    They messed up terribly by cutting corners and taking short cuts. Now they have to fix it. At least they don't have to redo the entire game- again. I can't imagine they got approval to recreate FFXIV, so they could put this abysmal quality of effort and design into it.
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  2. #162
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Man I hope all the extreme primal are required for the next weapon. You get like one shot per day to beat a primal. You fail you have to wait the next day but you get to start of where you left. I can imagine all the people crying now.
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  3. #163
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    Josh Tribal
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more Atma drops after the patch tonight...
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  4. #164
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Not even close.

    The proper set of events would be.

    Second Coil of Bahamut is delayed until patch 2.25 because not enough Free Companies have completed Turn-5.
    Feedback on the difficulty will be taken into consideration and ways to make Second Coil of Bahamut accessible will be looked into.
    We ask that you wait just a little longer until everything is properly balanced.

    Instead of what they did.

    Second Coil of Bahamut is released in 2.2.
    Echo buff released.
    Myth and Soldiery gear now help balance out Turn 5 as well having access to better weapons through Animus and Leviathan.

    If you're gonna do comparisons at least bother to do them properly.
    Do you understand they are lying to you? Developers do that all the time. Yoshida isn't a saint, just lock at Housing!

    There is no such a thing as "holding back content because many people haven't completed it". It's absurd. They are holding it back because it isn't ready yet, plain and simple.
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  5. #165
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Do you understand they are lying to you? Developers do that all the time. Yoshida isn't a saint, just lock at Housing!

    There is no such a thing as "holding back content because many people haven't completed it". It's absurd. They are holding it back because it isn't ready yet, plain and simple.
    yes there is, animus was supose to be a time sink for the players who had been asking for a longer term goal.

    in the end the majority didn't like this content and has been in a uproar. the whole thing was to test the waters on longer term goals which has failed it's something the player base has shown they do not want which is why it's being held back yoshi p is listening to his player base and they made their call based on it.
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  6. #166
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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    the whole thing was to test the waters on longer term goals which has failed it's something the player base has shown they do not want which is why it's being held back yoshi p is listening to his player base and they made their call based on it.
    That makes me sad... that this is what they consider longer term goals - bad rng roadblocks. If this is their "version" of it, then yes it is awful.

    It's too bad they didn't "test the waters" with a long and engaging quest.
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  7. #167
    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by melflomil View Post
    Man I hope all the extreme primal are required for the next weapon. You get like one shot per day to beat a primal. You fail you have to wait the next day but you get to start of where you left. I can imagine all the people crying now.
    That's fine by me. Hope the unwashed masses cry even harder
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  8. #168
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    yes there is, animus was supose to be a time sink for the players who had been asking for a longer term goal.

    in the end the majority didn't like this content and has been in a uproar. the whole thing was to test the waters on longer term goals which has failed it's something the player base has shown they do not want which is why it's being held back yoshi p is listening to his player base and they made their call based on it.
    Uh, not really. You can release the next relic stage and then fix the first part in a later date (they do it all the time with other quests), instead of doing both later.
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  9. #169
    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Uh, not really. You can release the next relic stage and then fix the first part in a later date (they do it all the time with other quests), instead of doing both later.
    Then the new topic to flood the forums would be about being "left behind"
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  10. #170
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Uh, not really. You can release the next relic stage and then fix the first part in a later date (they do it all the time with other quests), instead of doing both later.
    this is different players feel behind as is let alone if there is a whole nother part that they get left even more behind on.
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