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  1. #51
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by lxSch View Post
    DoT does not break sleep (at least for ACN), i think casting thunder and then sleep would solve the issue. Sleeping targets do not build enmity towards healing, good WHM will cast sleep if tank has marked the targets.
    Why wait for tanks to mark lol, as a whm i usually just asess the group on 1st mob pull/ fight and see if they r aoe spammy, can they follow markers cuz more than half time even with aura fluid -> repose; the dps/ tank will always acidentally still hit the chained target and it will wake up lol....
    So i rather just spam holy etc, don't really care if i'm grabbing hate as i'm well over geared for dungeons and have 6k+ hp now. No point in limiting potential dps output just because of tunnel visioned tanks.
    Dunno how tunnel vision dps work except for titan ex lol....
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  2. #52
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    File2ish's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I got into an AK run for my monk relic a few days ago, queued up with a ilvl 84 BLM I know who wanted to help me out. The tank we got had zenith curtana/shield and other ilvl 90 gear (allagan body as well as a couple other allagan pieces). Would run in flash, circle of scorn, and do RoH combo on one mob.

    Now, the BLM does his AoE rotation as per usual for the trash in AK and immediately rips hate from the tank with his first or second fire 2. This happened on most pulls. He was getting pissed off that the tank wasn't holding hate, and the tank was getting pissed off that the BLM was "flaring so quickly". To be clear, he was casting after the tank would pull the groups: i.e. after a flash and circle of scorn. Fire III the mob the tank targets and fire 2 the rest. I don't think he ever Flared because he would easily pull hate with Fire 2 and was worried the tank wouldn't be able to get hate back at all.

    The healer would occasionally pull hate as well, and the tank would have quite a bit of delay before going to rescue AF1 geared WHM with 2800ish HP. I ended up cross classing skull sunder to pull mobs off the healer if he took hate (it was surprisingly effective at pulling the mob to me). The tank said (s)he was "flashing like crazy", but (s)he clearly wasn't. Maybe some tanks are just getting lazy rather than having tunnel vision. I mean AK is a pretty easy dungeon.
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  3. #53
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    and do RoH combo on one mob.
    That's the bad part. A flash alone isn't gonna hold any candle towards fire 2. The tank needed to rotate Rage of Halone combo on multiple mobs. Even then, all I do as PLD in turn 4 is spamming flash. I think he just lied about spamming it and not keeping aggro from BLM.

  4. #54
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    File2ish's Avatar
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    That's the bad part. A flash alone isn't gonna hold any candle towards fire 2. The tank needed to rotate Rage of Halone combo on multiple mobs. Even then, all I do as PLD in turn 4 is spamming flash. I think he just lied about spamming it and not keeping aggro from BLM.
    Oh I know the tank lied about it, I could see his MP lol. But that said, it's not that hard to hold hate from a BLM AoE rotation. 1 Flash and a CoS certainly isn't enough to hold hate. I'm just chalking it up to laziness.
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