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  1. #11
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    Themis's Avatar
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    For more context, I cut out Corsair/Thief as from a design perspective... they would seem to be too redundant and unnecessary.
    Unfortunately, SE/Yoshida disagrees that THF would be redundant from a design perspective. Not only does the new storyline hint at it coming in, Yoshida even said that THF was one of the first new jobs he wanted to bring in, along with things jobs like Red Mage, Blue Mage and Samurai.

    RE: Archer -> Musketeer; it's unlikely that will be case, even if you don't think so and are basing this on your own thoughts of what should be (all subjective) and not what is likely/speculative (a mix of subjective and objective). Archer will likely go into Ranger, which would be a pure DPS branch from Archer, and Bard will continue to become more and more support/dps hybrid as the level cap increases. Now, I'd be quite happy seeing Ranger be a pet type class, and that would work quite well.

    That, or further the field/trap based abilities like Flaming Arrow.
    Musketeer, however, is a class, and can be seen as such because it has it's own guild in the Coral Tower (which is now also home to the Marauders).

    How weapons will come into things, I have no idea. But I'd expect a gunblade type class/job to come out of Garlemald, as part of an expansion that goes into the heart of the Empire. The technology of a gun/weapon hybrid seems very much theirs.
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  2. #12
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    Gesser's Avatar
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    Saedrin Nightfury
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    Unfortunately, SE/Yoshida disagrees that THF would be redundant from a design perspective. Not only does the new storyline hint at it coming in, Yoshida even said that THF was one of the first new jobs he wanted to bring in, along with things jobs like Red Mage, Blue Mage and Samurai.
    Read Disclaimer 1...
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  3. #13
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Erana View Post
    Right here's mine judging from what we've already seen in 1.0 and 2.2 through speculation.

    Marauder
    Warrior - tanky tanktank
    Beastmaster - Damage dealer who fights alongside beasts to deal damage. These pets are tamed in the open-world and then summoned later into battle. The role of the "pet" during a fight depends on the type of beast tamed. The pet's moveset can be based off the moveset that the monster originally had when fighting it normally. [In case you're wondering, Beastmaster was alluded to back in 1.0. There exists a group of women in Ishgard who have the ability to tame wild beasts.]
    Bring on Beastmaster i think it was one of the best jobs in FFXI.
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  4. #14
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    Egg Soup
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 50
    I've got an idea for new jobs people can play. It's called a "Tank" type class, maybe 2 of them. One can be "Paladin", a sword and board, enmity generating, high mitigation job. Another one I call "Warrior", an axe wielding MRD class that is awesome "tanking" multiple adds at a time, high DPS and high HP. I bet DF que-up times would dramatically decrease if these jobs were leveled.

    Please look forward to it.
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  5. #15
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    Tzar Nichols
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    Offer me any sword dps class and i'll bite your hand off basically.
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    I'm far from eccentric, I'm so psychotic...

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzo_ View Post
    Offer me any sword dps class and i'll bite your hand off basically.
    Positive thing... or? Haha. Well, between Katana & multiple spellswords you'd be set.
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  7. #17
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    I suppose I just don't see the point of having a base-class for Jobs like Corsair or Ninja.

    You have perfectly good base templates for them already... and Jobs will further distinguish themselves come their release as Yoshida has gone on record to say the level-cap will be increased upon Job Releases.

    PGL>NJA seems to be a perfect fit... you can give Ninja their mechanics through Job-specific Abilities.

    ARC>MSK as well... why recreate the wheel when you can just enhance the archetype of a ranged damage-dealer.

    From a design-perspective, redundancies will occur... too many base-classes will just water down the uniqueness & create massive gear-bloat.

    For every single new Class, if they stick with the current iteration, they'd need to implement 2-3 Jobs each... a Relic for each, and Job-specific gear for each.

    Whereas you could cut the fat & implement just Ninja, just Musketeer (no Corsair, no Thief) and put those additional resources to better use.

    Also, as far as Musketeers & weapons are concerned... you could permit the class to equip a 2h Rifle or dual 1h Pistols, just as how a CNJ & THM can equip 1h/shield or 2h.
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    Last edited by Gesser; 04-21-2014 at 04:45 AM.

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    These forums topics being done to death.
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  9. #19
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    Gesser's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    These forums topics being done to death.
    Please provide something constructive if you're going to post.
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  10. #20
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    Positive thing... or? Haha. Well, between Katana & multiple spellswords you'd be set.
    Haha yes it's a positive. I was a bit disappointed when there was no sword DPS class. I think the game would have benefited more if you could make any class play any role you want. Like sword being a dps, spear being a tank and so on. I think the classes are quite limited, maybe it's just me.
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    I'm far from eccentric, I'm so psychotic...

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