Feels good to play with people like this

[ispano]

sadly, it is the norm. when 10 out of 11 groups in pf consist of "no newbs/bads will kick on death" and the 11th being atma, it becomes a toxic breeding ground for hate of anyone that isnt at someone elses lvl of skill.

No, those people are just making the groups. It's because the inexperienced won't make their own most of the time. Doesn't make it the norm.

[Kiara1]

I was in a newcomers group once for coil.
Our tank rage quit and called everyone noob

Since then I've never ever touched partyfinder.

[Seobit]

Exp/kill groups are for killing, learning groups are for learning. The people who make exp groups already spent however many hours it took them to learn the fight and are now looking for other players who have put similar efforts so that they can go for the kill together.

If you want a learning group, you can join one or make one yourself. Both exp and learning groups can exist and both serve a purpose, one doesn't have to replace the other.

[Rynia]

x.x What happened to this thread?

It was a nice thread, about having a nice group and someone actually going out of their way to help people who feel left behind at endgame. And then people came in and started up the stupid "elitists-v-casuals" nonsense that's pervaded this forum lately when it actually only had a tiny tangential link to this topic >>

We get it, you don't like helping new people. That's fine. Why feel the need to act all superior and go "well when you've done it twenty million times with new people, you'll feel the same way"? Completely missing the point >>

[Kaze3434]

good point

i dont expect one to replace the other. it just seems that on our server, everyone is afraid to try to pf a t5 group. the majority i have seen are kill exp or gil charging. most people are trying to save for a fc house, and t5 gil kill is pretty high for one person (cheapest i have seen is 1.5 mil). granted, they let that person lot on an item. the only real problem i have with the charging is if that person pulls their own weight, it should become a discount. they die, they pay full price.