The number of bad players are rising!

[Velo_Vandore]

The those elitist should stay off the duty finder and do NOT go there expecting to speed run by default. For their own benefit, they should not go there and get mad everyone else and then come here and make a stink on the forums about it.

Additionally, if they just want other players just like themselves, that set of players gets only increasing smaller, because not everyone improves at the same rate as themselves. The better they get the smaller that pool becomes, and it is not the fault of the other players. So DO NOT come here and claim that the number of bad players just to wag their e-peen.

If they want to brag, just brag straight-up, they have the right of free speech. But if you are going to insult everyone else to make yourself feel good, most casuals don't even have the time to come to forums to make a rebuttal, but do NOT expect everyone to take it lying down.

You're AWESOME! ^^

I quit the duty finder a short while after reaching lvl.50. Even though I only wanted to play the dungeon the way it was originally designed to be played, almost every other player seemed to want to speed run, skipping half the content and using cheap tactics. I read some opinions on the forums and heard a lot of people say it was selfish for one player to slow down the run, when 3/7 others want to speedrun it. I realized that fighting against this in the duty finder would be a waste of time and would only cause stress for myself and everyone else, so I make a linkshell just for players who like to explore, chat and support each other throughout dungeons. The linkshell is great but it can be hard to get a group together for any serious endgame stuff.

After reading your comments I'm wondering whether I'm doing a disservice to the game and community by rolling over and letting the big boys have the playground all to themselves. I imagine a lot of player only become hardcore or elite because they fall in line with whatever the crowd dictates, instead of having their own mind and staying true to what it was they enjoyed about the game in the first place. I think many, many more are just leaving the game after lvl.50 or starting new characters, or hesitant to play end game content because of the intimidating attitude of players out there. If so, the argument of 7/8 players want to speedrun, so 1 player slowing down 7 is selfish is total BS, and more like the elites are a group of spoiled brats who are taking the duty finder for themselves and trying to bully everyone who won't fall into line away.

The duty finder should be for everyone to use, regardless of skill level. It's not my idea of fun to inevitably keep getting group with 7 other players who are expecting a speedrun for fast tomes or whatever, but is it OK to just give up and let a certain type of player just have the duty finder all to themselves? Sure, I can struggle to organize my own pre-formed party for a first time / story focused / casual run, but why should I have to and not them?

[Empressia]

The duty finder should be for everyone to use, regardless of skill level. It's not my idea of fun to inevitably keep getting group with 7 other players who are expecting a speedrun for fast tomes or whatever, but is it OK to just give up and let a certain type of player just have the duty finder all to themselves? Sure, I can struggle to organize my own pre-formed party for a first time / story focused / casual run, but why should I have to and not them?

Oh cool another mr im so important that my rights alone far outweighted other SEVEN PEOPLE.

[Foo01]

Oh cool another mr im so important that my rights alone far outweighted other SEVEN PEOPLE.

Oh cool another elitist speed runner who wants to bully other people on the duty finder. The party finder is there for you.

When new players show up on the instance for the very first time and never seen the cut scenes, that is a special moment and they should NOT have their game experience messed up by your speed runners, and yes it does NOT matter if there are 7 of you, because that moment is only ONCE and only ONCE.

Because there are times:
“Because the Needs of the One . . . Outweigh the Needs of the Many.” - Spock.

[Doo]

When new players show up on the instance for the very first time and never seen the cut scenes, that is a special moment and they should NOT have their game experience messed up by your speed runners, and yes it does NOT matter if there are 7 of you, because that moment is only ONCE and only ONCE.

It's not that special and DF is for everyone.

[Velo_Vandore]

Oh cool another mr im so important that my rights alone far outweighted other SEVEN PEOPLE.

But my point is that I don't believe the majority of players do like to speed-run / research fights before entering / prioritize tomes over enjoying the run without stress over people making mistakes. I believe there are selfish end-game players who have dominated the duty finder to make their play-style more convenient. They will ridicule and intimidate players who slow them down, scaring half the players away from the duty finder altogether. A lot of the players using the duty finder also will probably not mind slowing down, but they don't want to get on the wrong side of the player that shouts at noobs for watching cutscenes, so they clam up.

I was trying to explain how if a group of bullies dominate a playpark, and they want to spin the roundabout faster. Everyone stays the hell away out of fear because when you ask them to slow down you get abuse, even though the bullies are a minority in the community as a whole. Maybe one tougher kid decides they want to actually use the park as intended, and tells the people he's going to go slow and won't be bullied into going fast. He'll put his foot into the ground and let's say he's strong enough to forcibly slow the roundabout down. He's one kid in the park out of 8. Is he being selfish for spoiling the fun of the 7, or just getting his fair share of something that was intended for everyone but is being hogged by brats?

I'm not saying speedruns are always bad, but they are NOT the intended way to play content. When you can't use the duty finder to play content the way it was designed to be played there's a problem. You must see that?