The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[Inosaska]

Meh the current smn is only just learning to use his summoning magic and soon once we have enough level increases will allow us to summon the primals themselves under our own will.

The beast tribes of Eorzea worship and summon forth beings known as primals, among which are Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan. Yet what is a god to one man is a demon to another, for the city-states of Eorzea see these beings as a grave threat to their collective survival. In times immemorial, there lived mages who had not only the power to summon the primals, but also the means to transmute the primals' essences, thus binding them to their will. Known simply as summoners, the existence of these men and women and their arcane art have been all but lost to the ages.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Summoner

[Jediman]

Meh the current smn is only just learning to use his summoning magic and soon once we have enough level increases will allow us to summon the primals themselves under our own will.

so because of this statement they want to downgrade summoner egi. I have all ready spoken about this read post about black mage using swords and shields lol

The reason why I don't want it as DoT class is because SE will end up making it a full time chore on that side...they might end up downgrading the egi side of it.

Please, read my setence again, i said PEOPLE didn´t like them, same with these elitist that only play speedruns with BLM, because its faster.
SMN was a very good class, could be either a support or a offensive job role, And how would it cause screen lag if i may ask? Do you lag when you're fighting Ifrit?
Did you play XI? Avatars were not the real size of the actually avatars, If you're lagging because someone has a decent sized pet you might wanna consider upgrading your PC.

Obviously stuff will lag when you do events like Odin/Behemoth. But that was the same with big events in XI, Even w/o pets.

And lets even put away the size, The avatars right now, imho they are not even close how good they were in XI(i mean combat wise) you had total controll of countless abilities.

Good point when you have i5 quad core with Radeon HD 7970 plus 8gb ram you don't really see any lags. Most player are blaming the way the game is developed.

SE did not learn on what happened to ps2 when final fantasy XI surpassed graphic wise and dropped the support for PS2 later on I think history will repeat again for ps3 (thats whats holding back now for graphic)