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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexSunfire View Post
    if you want to leave then leave. but trying to "give a reason" to get a reduced penalty...? who decides if your "reason" is good enough to get a reduced penalty? or does your "reason" need to be good at all? can I just put that "people are stupid meanies" and that'll be good enough to get a reduced penalty? how does this suggestion not get abused?
    Everything gets abused... Like DF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensyon View Post
    Everything gets abused... Like DF...
    I think this argument just sold me on your suggestion...



    ... not. you want to implement a policy that everyone is going to abused which is fine because other things in the game gets abused. implementing this suggestion is effectively lowering the 30 minute penalty for everyone because no one is going to take a 30 minute penalty when they can just give any reason for why they should get a reduced penalty. SE doubled the penalty for leaving for a reason.
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    Last edited by LexSunfire; 04-19-2014 at 03:20 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexSunfire View Post
    I think this argument just sold me on your suggestion...



    ... not.
    Oh crap. Sorry, I didn't know you worked on the development team. Had I known I was supposed to be selling you this idea, I've would have provided a more in-depth analysis. Please, if I could just have your personal email, so that I might send you the information, we could really get the ball rolling on this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensyon View Post
    Oh crap. Sorry, I didn't know you worked on the development team. Had I known I was supposed to be selling you this idea, I've would have provided a more in-depth analysis. Please, if I could just have your personal email, so that I might send you the information, we could really get the ball rolling on this...
    well... we're discussing the merits of your suggestion are we not? if you can't convince your fellow players of your suggestion why do you think some dev is going to read this and think "oh yeah we should implement this?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensyon View Post
    You did not understand at all apparently. Literally, everything I've been saying is the exact opposite of what you just asked. I mean, wow. You're not even close. The three of us that were not preformed WANTED to teach them. They just wanted the carry. What they were doing was not good enough with their gear, plus Echo buff to win. I can prove it... We did not win...
    Ok, cus your wording was a little odd in that post for me.

    And "We did not win" doesn't mean that they weren't doing the right thing. Did they SAY that they wanted a carry? If not, then how can you prove that they wanted to be carried and weren't actually, you know, trying to beat it?

    Maybe it was you three who had the wrong idea of how to beat it and it was you guys that were screwing up the run and not them?

    I know that if I were to play the same way with EVERY group, I'd be failing most of my instances. Instead, I adjust to the group the best I can. This is especially important as a GLD at low levels since honestly, if I didn't aggro would go everywhere instead of at me.
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    Last edited by ariaandkia; 04-19-2014 at 03:43 AM.
    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
    I've played healers for so long that I can heal in my sleep literally (People have seen me do it).
    I like to do a bit of everything, but my preference is healing+support (until /that/ happens). FF14 title: Macro Queen

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    You can already vote kick yourself. Log out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexSunfire View Post
    well... we're discussing the merits of your suggestion are we not? if you can't convince your fellow players of your suggestion why do you think some dev is going to read this and think "oh yeah we should implement this?"
    You misunderstand. "Odd" provided insight on page 1 that I agreed with on the post sometime after, thus I am satisfied. I actually appreciated the way SE provides alternatives to the 30 minute penalty for DF by making it solo-DF only, instead of letting these trolls affect my experience after the fact. Everything I'm posting now is just in response to those of you who keep responding without fully understanding what I was talking about in the first place. As to not be rude, I am just continuing the discussion by responding to those who cared enough to keep posting. My fellow players (or at least "Odd") came up with a solution that wasn't just the typical and ineffective "Just deal with it". As I said in the second sentence of my first post, I assumed there was someone out there with a better idea and there was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensyon View Post
    As to not be rude, I am just continuing the discussion by responding to those who cared enough to keep posting.
    posting argumentative comments "as to not be rude." still winning. alright, done with this troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariaandkia View Post
    Ok, cus your wording was a little odd in that post for me.

    And "We did not win" doesn't mean that they weren't doing the right thing. Did they SAY that they wanted a carry? If not, then how can you prove that they wanted to be carried and weren't actually, you know, trying to beat it?

    Maybe it was you three who had the wrong idea of how to beat it and it was you guys that were screwing up the run and not them?
    Yes, the WHM told us with a 50% Echo Buff, it was impossible to lose and that everyone was "Getting carried by Square". In all honesty, I did think we could do it, because of Echo, but when I suggested to the 3 BLMs to use Sprint to help with dodging the plumes, he told them not to worry about it as we can eat the plumes now. For the record, my strat was to dodge the plumes and landslides and burn down the Gaols, then focus on the boss. He also kept walking off the edge...
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexSunfire View Post
    posting argumentative comments "as to not be rude." still winning. alright, done with this troll.
    I thought you were already done. How am I the troll? What are you doing here..?
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