The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[JetBrooks]

He/she is being bitter and sarcastic.

[Ricdeau]

He/she is being bitter and sarcastic.

I somewhat gathered, but I'm not unsure about what. I mean summoner has higher single target output, can insta-rez, decent AOE ability, etc. I'd say overall summoner is a stronger class in the right hands. Not that I have any problems with black mage. Both casters serve vital roles right now, and I like to have each in my raids. I as I've said many times in the thread I can understand wanting some tweaks to egis and some more variety in that regard, but outside of that summoner has good tools to work with.

And I agree with you on the pets doing the DOTing. Why autopilot the aspect of the class that needs the most attention? That would be like having my DOTs being applied just by me getting Greased Lightning stacks or something. It would take so much away from what I do.

nope i don't want a completely different class i want the summoner class the name says it all lol

Red mage DoT yes please lol

Since you and Akiza keep wanting to harp on lore, and specifically how the classes played in FFXI. Why would red mage DOT? If it was introduced it would need to be the first true support job in the game and be more buff/debuff oriented. Also the big red mage thing was elemental weapon augmentation.