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  1. #31
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    I don't know if i din't explain clearly but you lot seem to keep missing the point, this not about me, i have my atma weapon, and i also have a leviathan weapon upgraded.

    I love this game and i don't want it to end up like 1.0 and to see the people i play with quit the game. This is a clear issue you can fool yourselfs all you want but the people that like it are a minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    I don't know if i din't explain clearly but you lot seem to keep missing the point, this not about me, i have my atma weapon, and i also have a leviathan weapon upgraded.

    I love this game and i don't want it to end up like 1.0 and to see the people i play with quit the game. This is a clear issue you can fool yourselfs all you want but the people that like it are a minority.
    First, prove that people that like it are a minority. Then prove that people that dislike it are a majority. You won't be able to. It's more likely the majority just doesn't care. Note I said likely, not stating it as fact.
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    This is a clear issue you can fool yourselfs all you want but the people that like it are a minority.
    So where are those majority people you're pertaining to, why not let them talk?
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    I normally wouldn't have a problem with the mirror, if not for the fact Levi is yet another scripted primal fight. Dodge left, dodge right,use it, cure, now dodge again. Good! Now do it again for 100 fights.
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    I actually think it makes an argument look a ton weaker when they have to resort to saying something along the lines of "the majority agrees with me" with no real data to back it up.
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    The patch has been live for three weeks, the next one won't be out for another nine or ten (not counting 2.25), and even that will probably not add progression content since it is a CT patch. The next progression patch would then be 2.4, which is presumably close to twenty four weeks out.

    With RNG some people could have their upgrades already, while most will still be grinding it out. If everything were moved to a token system where everyone were guaranteed something after X amount of work, then you would have to set the payout at a point in time that keeps content relevant for a majority of a patch cycle, otherwise people will grind it out in a week and the "nothing to do" threads come back even faster.

    There has to be a balance.
    Yup they could have been more smart and put out CT as progression after i90 and then Coil2 after that, they are releasing content in a retarded way putting harder stuff before the easier content, it makes zero sense.
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    They are also putting out a small amount of content and trying to extend it artificially through barriers. They know that they cannot keep up with players, and they are not designing content that is naturally long lasting, so these lockouts and RNG tactics become the lazy way out.

    Personally, I am very unhappy about this development philosophy. It seems like the "shortcut" approach. I understand that content takes time to develop... but they chose to design a game that launch people to max level quickly- so they are responsible for providing quality end of game content that will keep players engaged.

    Of course you will have players that consume any content, no matter how sophisticated or lengthy the distance from beginning to end- but rather than design with those players as outliers, they seem to just be making content incredibly one dimensional - not even trying, then tossing a lockout mechanic on it and calling it a day.
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  8. #38
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    This game is becoming just FARMING the same easy content over and over again. Easy and brainless like fates.
    And it is no fun. And I think there is no respect for us. And if they continue like this, no giving responses, I will quit asap.
    I'm honestly fed up.
    And the most funny thing is that Yoshida replied on the Mirrors "problem" ( JUST ONE THREAD ) and didn't give not even a small response for the Atma Problem.

    Let me just say even that this 2.2 patch is the worst ever expect the SCOB.
    We can clearly see the direction of this game and honestly I don't like it. People that didn't complain about ATMAs is just because they have been lucky.
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    Last edited by lordparanoia; 04-19-2014 at 03:09 AM.

  9. #39
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    Are casuals doing coil2 or leviathan? Most casual players that I know are still working on turn5 and ex primals. So the patch doesn't really affect their gameplay except give access to better gear. Plus the three new dungeons are really fun and easy.

    So really I don't see OP's point at all. I mean yeah it sux that I will prolly never even see a mirror drop. But, heck, I never saw my blm pants ever drop in turn4 either in 6 months. It's not a big deal.

    People complain because they are complainers.
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    Leona Thane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Yup they could have been more smart and put out CT as progression after i90 and then Coil2 after that, they are releasing content in a retarded way putting harder stuff before the easier content, it makes zero sense.
    This is only an issue because they CT was supposed to be in at launch. Had it been, there wouldn't have been a gap between i70 and i90, and progression could have been implemented in the correct order. This time around there aren't many holes to fill, so they could expand on current progression and give us something a little more horizontal (not holding my breath).

    Short of that, I suspect that an expansion will be a good reset for the progression flow and we will hopefully have something that makes more sense.
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