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  1. #31
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Nico Nico
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    I have added extra 2 retainers for Venture as I saw ppl posting many surprising items obtained from their retainers.
    SE has successfully made me to pay more even I don't want extra storages...^^;
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  2. #32
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    Hybris Maenad
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Were extra retainers a reward for 3 & 6 month subscriptions I'd be fully supportive of the idea.

    Asking me for 25% more money a month for storage that should already be available considering how many classes you're encouraged to level is a slap to the face. I'm seriously considering picking up another game if this is the route SE is going to go with this game.
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    Deadzone Night
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    Conjurer Lv 16
    Quote Originally Posted by Hybris-Maenad View Post
    Were extra retainers a reward for 3 & 6 month subscriptions I'd be fully supportive of the idea.

    Asking me for 25% more money a month for storage that should already be available considering how many classes you're encouraged to level is a slap to the face. I'm seriously considering picking up another game if this is the route SE is going to go with this game.
    I feel the same way. Especially since I and many others have been asking for additional or separate storage(for crafting items, fishing tackle, materia, etc) in the Quality of Life improvement thread, to only be told the more retainers would eventually be available, to find them costing and extra $2 a month, each.

    The 3rd one at least should have been free. 1 per main city. Also more free ones with expansions that add in more main cities(which is how I assume they will add in some new classes)

    I hate to see what they would be charging for next. Maybe an extra armory chest page, since we will need one when more jobs come out, since we already don't have enough if you play every class and PVP with all battle classes.
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  4. #34
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I'm personally not upset with people having the option for extra retainers, especially with the introduction of Ventures. If players have 3 or more retainers, then they have 3 or more reasons to need armor (of all level ranges), especially the lower level armor. Not many players are going to have the patience to make updated armor themselves, for all of their retainers, so this presents an entirely new market for crafters to take advantage of.

    I personally wouldn't waste the energy being that upset about people having an "edge" over you, in the game. I'd rather spend my time looking for ways to take advantage of the situation.
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  5. #35
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    Alphadeus's Avatar
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    Alphadeus Zarius
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Before I give my opinion on paying for extra retainers, I just want to say that I think everyone should be able to get a 3rd retainer (for the other nation they weren't able to choose) in-game. I imagine it could be a quest/reward for getting promoted to the next rank when it becomes available. I also believe that either retainers need more space, or our characters need more space to walk around with. I would love to see gobbie bag quests in this game.

    I jumped on the 2 extra retainers within minutes of finding out about them on the Lodestone. With 50 in all crafting and gathering classes, I was having difficulty managing my retainer inventory, because I wanted to hold on to everything "just in case". The bonus is that I was able to make 1 of each (hunter, miner, botanist, fisher), and had been sending them out to get me materials til they hit level 50. I'd rather this, than having to deal with mules like in FFXI.
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  6. #36
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I'd imagine there would be much less issue, and more players interested in paying the extra fee, if retainers could be summoned as companions.

    Of course, also think that the extra third retainer, for everyone, is also a fair request. I'm going to assume it will be made available by the next expansion, if not included in the price of the expansion.
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  7. #37
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Not sure why this surprises people, SE doesn't have a history of being generous. Many people keep bringing up how this is ok, because XI charged for this or that, well that is just B.S. If we keep on this track, that it was ok in XI, so let's do it here, next we won't be getting full expansions, but instead add on scenarios where we will be able to pay $10 for a single quest chain. I can see this as the way people will be able to upgrade their relic weapons in the future, want to raise it another 10 item levels, just do the quest, but access to the quest costs a little. Then there was Abyssea, again instead of a full expansion, little bits for $10 a piece, and the worst part was that your playtime in there was limited, sure after a little bit you could stay in there virtually forever, but in the beginning it was a chore to get a party to build lights for time extensions, just so you could do the quests, farming, NM kills and what not. Yoshi also said that he wouldn't introduce anything via microtransactions that could give an edge to people that pay for it in the same breath that he verified that they would be selling the more retainers, and that they would become more useful with 2.2. Right now on Sargatanas, Apkallu eggs sell for just over 400 each, paying for the 2 extra retainers means you get 10 more per hour than those that don't, meaning you are getting 4000 gil per hour that you play. SE has basically become RMT's so shouldn't we all report them to their special task force?
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  8. #38
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Is there a method of farming Ventures that I'm not aware of?

    If someone really wants to spend the time farming Ventures, to have their four retainers farm eggs, I don't see how this is something wrong. Of course, if they're spending all that time focused on eggs, that means less competition elsewhere.
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  9. #39
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    Dyonisus Rugeria
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I personally would rather have my retainers farming eggs/skins/ shards/etc for me so I can spend the little time I have in game doing content rather than gathering crafting mats. I sell the stuff I get from quick ventures, sure, but most of my hunting/gathering ventures are for me and not for the market borads. I don't have an issue with the pay for extra retainers...esp since this was the business model since 1.0.
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  10. #40
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    Kyana's Avatar
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    Kyana Nekote
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    There is nothing you could do with more retainers than you can do with the 2 retainers you get for free, so the fee is ok.
    I agree that Fishers should get a "tacklebox" though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlanderx View Post
    The 3rd one at least should have been free. 1 per main city. Also more free ones with expansions that add in more main cities(which is how I assume they will add in some new classes)
    Retainers are not stationed in 1 city, you can call them from anywhere and the wares you sell are also sold in every city, so, I don't get your point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlanderx View Post
    I hate to see what they would be charging for next. Maybe an extra armory chest page, since we will need one when more jobs come out, since we already don't have enough if you play every class and PVP with all battle classes.
    Maybe they will start charging 5$ for new minions or 30$ for a new mount. Weapon glow for 10$ someone?
    Seriously, the current fee and the additional services are fair.
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    Last edited by Kyana; 04-17-2014 at 12:14 AM.

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