Vote Kick yourself....

[ariaandkia]

Except if you ask them to vote kick you and they don't, then what are the chances that they'll vote to kick you if you start a vote kick on yourself?

[Sensyon]

Except if you ask them to vote kick you and they don't, then what are the chances that they'll vote to kick you if you start a vote kick on yourself?

It's a reportable offense to "not play anymore". I'm suggesting that they implement a system where you vote-kick yourself for various reasons, and if the party denies it, you, as the innitiator after a small time period (less than 30 minutes) you can leave without reprisal or penalty.

[Amnesia]

(...) you can leave without reprisal or penalty.

This is exactly the behavior that the 30-min penalty was designed to punish. Obviously, SE thinks that people should not do this.

[Sensyon]

This is exactly the behavior that the 30-min penalty was designed to punish. Obviously, SE thinks that people should not do this.

Some of SE's policies obviously didn't take everything into account. That's why they're constantly changing things. The 30 minute penalty and Vote-Kick features weren't always there, for example. My complaint is that there is zero reprimand for uncooperative parties. These pseudo-prebuilt parties come into DF and expect everyone to play by there rules. That's not cool...

[Amnesia]

My complaint is that there is zero reprimand for uncooperative parties.

I think that's exactly the reason for the penalty---so that one person can't just leave if they feel that the rest of the party is not meeting their expectations. They want to encourage people to work together and help each other to learn...

[Sensyon]

I think that's exactly the reason for the penalty---so that one person can't just leave if they feel that the rest of the party is not meeting their expectations. They want to encourage people to work together and help each other to learn...

Yet they refused to work with the other's outside of the pre-formed 5. And they were not interested in learning. They wanted carries... The non-preformed members were trying to tell them that learning the fight is the carry. They didn't want to hear it.

[ariaandkia]

Yet they refused to work with the other's outside of the pre-formed 5. And they were not interested in learning. They wanted carries... The non-preformed members were trying to tell them that learning the fight is the carry. They didn't want to hear it.

So from what I understand, they wanted to learn, but you didn't want to teach them and you felt that it was a burden to have to teach them?

[ariaandkia]

It's a reportable offense to "not play anymore". I'm suggesting that they implement a system where you vote-kick yourself for various reasons, and if the party denies it, you, as the innitiator after a small time period (less than 30 minutes) you can leave without reprisal or penalty.

And what is wrong with using the vote abandon feature?

Personally, If my party is being stupid enough, they just find that suddenly the healer (or tank, or dps/healer/tank/support-in-one) is well, ignoring the party and soloing the dungeon. Because you know what? If it is easier for me to solo the dungeon than do it with the party? I will solo.

Of course, I mainly play healer so... Yeah... My parties tend to not live very long if they are that bad. And I've soloed the first boss of Stone Vigil before so it isn't like I can't do at least part of the dungeon by myself. (Noted, there are some dungeons that can't be solo'ed (maybe possible with the best gear in the game, but not with any gear I have)) due to what is needed).