On the importance of the elder primal, Odin

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

I think for the while, Odin is just wandering arround the shroud looking for something we are going to find sooner or later, and then is when things will get interesting with him. I mean, he is an Elder Primal and he is easier than Ifrit HM. No sense whatsoever. As was said before, Gelmora looks like a place where he could be instanced and he has to be related to Bahamut in one way or another. Odin, Bahamut and Alexander are in FF saga, the representation of the classic triangle of fantasy of the Knight, the Dragon and the Castle.

Let`s hope the loremasters do something with this, it would be sad that Odin stays as a FATE forever which, would be almost an insult for FF players since he is one of the most iconic, powerful and dear summons.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

If you want to take it further with the history of Odin himself (the actual myth, not FF), Odin is killed by Fenrir. Would be interesting to see some kind of nod to that in FF form. IF they ever intend to introduce Fenrir.

[Orophin]

If you want to take it further with the history of Odin himself (the actual myth, not FF), Odin is killed by Fenrir. Would be interesting to see some kind of nod to that in FF form. IF they ever intend to introduce Fenrir.

Probably a good chance it's coming.

[Teknoman]

Totally forgot about Fenrir eventually being introduced to the game. Unless this means that Odin will end up being a benevolent primal of sorts, and task you with killing Fenrir when the time comes?

Anyone else feel Odin is a little too tiny? I was really surprised the first time I saw his character model.

From what i've seen, he seems big enough. He doesnt have to be much bigger than a Roe in my opinion, especially since he usually seems to be closer to a normal human in height most of the time, if not a little bigger.

[Darske]

I'm sure there's probably a thread where it's already discussed in detail, but Odin's dialogue lines when you fight him are super interesting to me. "Here I stand, a god amongst men. Yet here I remain, a man amongst gods."

There are so many different ways to speculate and read into his words that I really can't wait for us to finally find out what the deal is. For instance, why is it that he reappears after every defeat? Other primals need to be summoned again, but Odin seems to need no such invitation- he just seems to recover and re-manifest, and whatever his deal is there's no denying that he's so terrifyingly strong that every elemental in the ENTIRE Twelveswood trembles at his presence.

I've never been able to confirm it, but I've heard that Odin's phsyical appearance changes based on who lands the killing blow. If it's true, does that imply that Odin's spirit takes over the body of the one who slays him?

[Alberel]

I'm sure there's probably a thread where it's already discussed in detail, but Odin's dialogue lines when you fight him are super interesting to me. "Here I stand, a god amongst men. Yet here I remain, a man amongst gods."

I've always read that as meaning that Odin was once mortal... he's actually a tragic figure especially with his defeat dialogue reading "You know not what you do..." implying that he actually has some benevolent purpose.

I've never been able to confirm it, but I've heard that Odin's phsyical appearance changes based on who lands the killing blow. If it's true, does that imply that Odin's spirit takes over the body of the one who slays him?

This is true, he sometimes takes a Lalafell form even with a mini Sleipnir. He's not possessing anyone though I don't think... it's more like he's echoing them. I have some further theories on this based on the events in Turn 9:

Bahamut is shown to be capable of taking the tempered soul of Nael Van Darnus after death and creating it a new body in the form of Nael Deus Darnus. Odin seems to be granted a new body after every death as well so I think it's something similar. It's my belief that Odin isn't actually a primal at all but the pawn of one, namely Fenrir. Urth's Fount would be where Fenrir is still sealed and manipulating Odin as a tool to some end, perhaps to free himself.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

So… the FATE, Steel Reign rewards…

Zantetsuken, Hmaljr, Herklaedi and Sleipnir barding…

BUT WHY NO SHIELD?! T__________T

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

And yet people are still wondering who it was that summoned Odin in the first place. Well…

[Grayve]

And yet people are still wondering who it was that summoned Odin in the first place. Well…

(Posting because I am sleepy and this is for humor)

A nice theory, sir, but incorrect! Allow me to edify you with the FACTS.

1) Odin is freed from his stone prison when it is cut in half by a sword. (Maybe, I don't remember the exact text.)
2) In FF8, Gilgamesh obtains Odin's sword after Odin is defeated by Seifer. (Somehow. It was lame. Odin losing to Seifer? Phfff)
3) Gilgamesh can travel between the universes of Final Fantasy via the void. (Usually.)
4) Gilgamesh lost all his weapons.
4a) Zatentsuken is sold in Mor Dhona.
5) Odin uses Gugnir because he is missing his sword. (Yes, I know he does, in fact, use Zantetsuken.)
6) Odin is chasing Gilgamesh, looking for his sword. He is unaware Gilgamesh lost it. (Likely while fleeing from Odin in terror.)
7) Each time he is defeated, Odin returns to the void to look for Gilgamesh in another game. (Because why not?)

Thus, we can see that Gilgamesh was the being that freed Odin while looking for Gungnir to complete his weapon collection. (Sits back and smokes pipe, nodding sagely.)

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Well… I NEVER! *twirls moustache while adjusting monocle*

1) Odin is freed from his stone prison when it is cut in half by a sword. <- Explicitly stated in The Dark Divinity quest
2) In FF8, Gilgamesh obtains Odin's sword after Odin is defeated by Seifer. (It was lame.)
3) Gilgamesh can travel between the universes of Final Fantasy via the void.
4) Gilgamesh lost all his weapons. (He still has Enkidu. That's a paddlin'.)
4a) Zatentsuken is sold in Mor Dhona. (So? A lot is sold in More Donuts. Except for donuts.)
5) Odin uses Gugnir because he is missing his sword. (LIES AND SLANDER!)
6) Odin is chasing Gilgamesh, looking for his sword. He is unaware Gilgamesh lost it. (Nope. So wrong. Odin is seeking Manbearpig to stop his devastation to Eorzea)
7) Each time he is defeated, Odin returns to the void to look for Gilgamesh in another game. (Because no.)

Thus, we can see that Gilgamesh has nothing to do with Odin in this realm.