If you have tunnel vision, please don't play a tank. :(

[joshdavis271]

Paladin = Fight or Flight, Lob, CoS, Flash, Flash, Flash, Flash, Fastblade, Riot Blade, Flash, CoS, rinse/repeat from Fastblade.

Thats well and good if you are pulling 4-5 mobs or do ing a speed run but if you are doing 2-3 mobs its best to go in mark a target throw your shield and do your rage combo while cycling through your mob list, works every time for me just make sure to flash after savage blade then do rage of halone. PLD is so easy to tank with its not even funny.

[indira]

Thats well and good if you are pulling 4-5 mobs or do ing a speed run but if you are doing 2-3 mobs its best to go in mark a target throw your shield and do your rage combo while cycling through your mob list, works every time for me just make sure to flash after savage blade then do rage of halone. PLD is so easy to tank with its not even funny.

not hard hard to hold the whole zone if the DPS let you fire off your first two hate skills then its NP, but its that party you get when there aoe'ing before one fires off, or they decide they should pull for you then they get ran over and blame you for not pulling the mobs off them.
PLD = flash, circle of scorn, then your rage of halone rotation ending on a new mob.
WAR = flash, overpower and/or steel cyclone when its up. then your butcher block rotation ending on a new mob.

[Huntington]

Got Pharos Sirius earlier, since I got WAR to 50 two days ago I've been using that as my primary tank for the time being for Roulettes and the like.


Had decently geared BLM and BRD, our AoE would be great. The problem though, was that the BLM was pulling before me, often and several times each pull, I'm running up to an enemy and he's already casting Fire 3 on them and hitting it before me, I decide to ignore it for now and just take it that he's testing his tank, he's also constantly medicating somehow to make his damage even more ridiculous.

We keep going on finish the boss after some difficulties because the healer wanted to Cleric Stance DPS instead of healing. The BLM is still pulling before I can establish hate, I've had enough by this point. I say "I don't know whether you're testing me or trying to make me look bad by pulling before me, but cut it out so I can try and do what I'm here for."
He lessens his pulls but steadily keeps doing it throughout the dungeon. As much as I like tanking with WAR, I know I'm likely to still get blamed for a DPS's mistakes later on if he pulls early and I cant even land a hit before he does a few thousand damage. Same with WHMs that Cleric Stance Holy spam, all the overpowers in the world wont bring back enmity if they do that a few seconds at a time before they're already dead, that also happened on that run earlier.

[KaenShinzui]

I don't like spamming flash and riot blade combo. It works if the dps are weak but when real good dps appear, riot blade + flash combo shows its weakness. The enmity that flash generate is significantly lower than rage of halone. So here is my usual combo (please note that I play on PC with keyboard and mouse so I have no idea how you do it with controller)
Shield Lob > Gather mobs > CoS > Flash x 3 > Rage of Halone Combo while tabbing through all mobs while watching enmity bar and make sure rage of halone land on the mob that has highest possibility of losing threat > Flash occasionally > Riot blade combo if i'm not losing hate on any of the mobs soon.
This help me control around 5-6 mobs without much problem, unless i'm too tired to watch the enmity bar then I just flash like all other pld do xD I mark when I'm sure that I can't hold threat against the dps, otherwise, ain't nobody got time to mark 6 mobs.

[Seif]

You yes you the guy who aggroes with your ranged attack and thinks you're doing a cool pull as a dps.

Stop it and go in a corner to think about what you just did.

Smh

[LalaRu]

Pulling a group of enemies and only bothering to hold 1 of the 3 or 4 while the other enemies beat on the rest of the party is not good times for anyone.

Asking people don't play things they don't know, results in a desert game, because we all don't know nothing the first day we login.
Yes, it is quite odd pulling hate at first heal but sooner or later, a new tank will make experience and hopefully goes better.
Yes again, there is people who is slow at learn things, if they does at all, but this happens for everything. Tanks and healers are most noticed because their bad playing most likely will results in wipes, while dps using only one skill all time, just makes things a little slower.

[KaenShinzui]

Tanks and healers are most noticed because their bad playing most likely will results in wipes, while dps using only one skill all time, just makes things a little slower.

Dps is easy, being a good dps is however, not. Pull before tank hold decent agro > FAIL. Tunnel vision > not switching to adds or avoid ground aoe > FAIL. Not doing the right thing > not enough dps on dps race fight > FAIL. Dps has to learn as much as tanks and heals do, dude. It is really noticeable when you do things wrong. If you get good tanks and heals to make up for that, no problem, they forgive you. If the tank and heal are not good enough, they now have a reason to blame dps for their own failure.

[micropanther7]

I see more DPS being suicidal idiots than bad tanks...so far, I hasten to add. Mostly in lower dungeons, I feel that it's people new to MMO's in general, who don't understand mechanics like hate generation, heal aggro, etc. Or even know how to focus/assist target on what the tank is hitting, how to mark targets. Even if targets aren't marked, you can tell what the tank is hitting on. Point is, one mustn't assume the tank is a moron because he's not holding hate, he/she genuinely might not have a clue (I'm talking lower level dungeons here).

[Legionius]

I used to mark targets. It rarely did anything. Many people seem to think it means don't touch.

The random Brd puller or the amazing i90 Drg that sprints into every single group the entire dungeon and just stands there spamming heavy thrust as hard they can while I clean up the mess burned me out on worrying about the dps. If they try I'll watch out for them. If they don't I play the how close to death can I get them before I have to save the healer game.

[Jinko]

If this is brayflox hm I'm sure groups really like that and don't just leave and kick you to find a tank that actually knows how to hold aoe threat and let's dps maximise their potential. I play both a dps and pld tank so I don't buy the excuses and have simply reformed groups with me as tank when people struggle to do the following.

Pop FoF. Flash. CoS. Keep flashing. Lost threat and weren't out of mana? Flash more. Weave CDs in as they also generate threat. Start cycling targets with your absurd threat lead.

It's so hard, you do it in fates. Enmity management difficulty in this game is a joke.

I'm not sure what you post is saying, you say "really like that", but it doesn't make sense, why would any group enjoy their tank losing hate ?