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  1. #41
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    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    LOTS more recipes used for vanity would be ideal, imo. Please keep in mind (as others have stated) that the cost of mats needed to craft these new 2.2 items are VERY expensive. They are also very demanding in terms of the crafter's stats (requires overmelded AF crafting gear). This is, in part, why the finished products are priced the way they are.
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  2. #42
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Players take a 100% loss when they purchase crafted gear. It can't be resold, and it doesn't hold value.

    Why would you put money down on gear you might toss in the trash after a single successful raid?



    If I could buy il90 gear for my BRD wear it for awhile; enjoy playing my BRD for a week then resale it and buy a different set of gear for another class you'd see a lot more market activity.

    People would be willing to buy the crafted gear if they could liquidate it and get some gil back to gear up another class. This game is far too strict & permanent with how it handles gear & upgrades.
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    Last edited by Dhex; 04-15-2014 at 02:01 AM.

  3. #43
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    Illya's Avatar
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Apparently the solution to a crafter's goods not selling isn't to lower their prices, it's to complain on the official forum. Capitalism at work.
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  4. #44
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    Lord Rulkar
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by jgg1988 View Post
    Before get philo tokens was very easy! now ilvl 90 requieres 1000 myth for craft 1 ítem only.... and is more difficult than before for get it. ignoring brayflox exploit.
    If you mean running the dungeon and leaving after first two bosses that is not an exploit. Look at CT and at how man players run it for the first two bosses and bail. Was that ever called an exploit? NO!. Why because players new CT was lol anyways it didn't care. Even though I do not personally run Brayflox that way I see nothing wrong with doing it in a PF settings. I.E. not abusing DF but using PF than ok.
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  5. #45
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    Volsung's Avatar
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    Adell Raynes
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    i would have at least supported allowing crafters to make 1-2 crafted pieces per class, that were sub endgame. (-10 ilvl)
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  6. #46
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    Lady Pearz
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Not sure why you guys all glossed over a legit reply. The i90 crafted provides stat fixes like accuracy needed in later coils. If you aren't a dedicated raider, you probably don't care for i90 crafted, but that gear could be the difference between clearing this week or having to wait an extra week. Which is a huge deal in t8 as thats 1 extra week advance on a possible i110 weapon. Our whole raid uses 2-3 pieces crafted just to fix accuracy / bad sub stats the new i110 gives.

    This gear is not for everyone, if you don't care about the large cost for a small gain your group probably isn't a dedicated progression group.

    On the price note it is all about your servers wealth and what they can afford. If the profit margin isn't huge, people will be more inclined to buy. I personally spent about 10 mil master crafting all classes and re melding all my gear but I have already turn that around with about 30 mil in profit.
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  7. #47
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Asrah Stone
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    The problem isnt coil, the problem is crafters charging (on my server) 1.2 million for one piece of gear when the mats, if bought instead of farmed, cost about 150k.
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  8. #48
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    Robin Ster
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    It's just too expensive for a stop-gap solution. "Ideal" secondaries just aren't worth it when the gear isn't top ilvl. Unless it's HQ it doesn't even match the myth/coil drop primary stats.
    Other than the acc cap secondaries hardly matter! So it's quite easy to just rearange stuff and farm coil/primals/myth to get an i90 piece that'll work for you.

    Sure, after getting the Levi axe I've got a big acc problem that could be fixed with the Heavy Wolfram hat or pants. But why would I spend well over 500k to get an HQ version to keep my drop-i90 defence/str/vit levels when I could just switch a couple easily found, t1-4 or ex primal accessories?

    Of course...if GSM hadn't gotten left out of the i90 crafted almost entirely maybe I'd be able to buy a piece or two.
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  9. #49
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I found crafted items very nice for alt jobs. As im raiding as smn, all my seconds coil drops / soldiery gear goes to it. It will take some time before i can get lockout healer gear, so the i90 crafts are a nice upgrade.
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  10. #50
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    Hermennes Cletrindale
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 15
    There's not that many rich players on the server who can just buy gear like that. Keep in mind most of the rich players are crafters themselves who would rather work towards crafting their own gear than buying it. I've made three pieces for myself and I have no regrets, even though I could have sold them.

    Also, if history repeats itself, SE will make myth gradually easier to get, which will in turn drive prices down, so the market will be flooded with i90 crafted gear soon enough. Just enjoy the high prices while you can because it WILL tank.
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