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  1. #231
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    Karnyboy's Avatar
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post
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    If you're not paying SE to play their game then you don't deserve to hold things from people who do. You can keep your characters, but anything past that you have no right to lay claim to it if you can't be bothered to have even the slightest form of commitment to an MMO.

    Go play ESO if that's what you want to do, but guess what if you're playing ESO you can take a minute or two to log in to FFXIV if you're still subscribed and keep your home. That old saying "you can't have your cake and eat it too"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_can...ake_and_eat_it serves perfectly here, if you choose to stay and play ESO with your friends then you have to accept the fact you will lose certain things in another game you no longer feel the need to stay committed to. That's called life. You think Bethesda/Zenimax care about your house in FFXIV? They want your money and time just like SE wants theirs. You decide what is important to you, not being some guy that jumps ship because everyone is doing it.

    I'm pretty sure if a house that you got in FFXIV is more important to you than the game itself you will not be staying as a longtime subscriber anyway, and even at that if the said house is important to you You WILL find a way to log on briefly to accommodate your possession.

    You guys have no idea what's rough, I played Asheron's Call years ago when housing came available, guess what they charged you rent paid via in game items, it was due monthly. I lost that house and all items in it when I stopped playing. This is no different. You need to accept that something you cannot commit to should stick around waiting for you to return.

    I can go back to Asheron's Call and play my characters and that is the sum of my enjoyment, not the fickleness of a home but the character itself I created. Turbine will never take that away from me and SE will never take your characters away, which should be more of a reason for you to enjoy the game than virtual bricks and mortar.
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  2. #232
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    Miburo's Avatar
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    King Brohemoth
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Keep missing the point. What does it hurt to make it 90 days to coincide with major content patches instead? Or, better yet, since you seem to think there can be only a finite amount of houses for some reason, a voucher be given for the land deed and building permit? That way everyone can have their cake and eat it too. Why are you against that?
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  3. #233
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    SchalaZeal's Avatar
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    That saying, an FC that collectively takes a break due to another game (which me and my friends does) or just quits for an apparent reason shouldn't get punished just by not playing.
    Then join an active FC once you come back, one that has a house. Go without a house. See, simple solutions.

    Because apparently you don't care enough about ARR to stay.
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  4. #234
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    chocomaid's Avatar
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    Temis Altera
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50
    As above said, you keep missing the point.

    A suggestion was to give the absentee FC a voucher/consolation deed of some sort. Land is freed from inactive houses. No gil is lost. Everybody wins. No one is "holding things from people" in this manner. NO ONE LOSES. Man people will argue to argue.
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  5. #235
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    Actually, at least one ward on Balmung is completely full (Ward 1 Lavender Beds where ours are). The small house just below ours has a single sofa in it, and as far as I know hasn't been touched since the day that FC bought it. Would be nice if that rotting house went away so some else more active could move in. I don't care if it's 35 days or 60 days (the latter is more reasonable I think) but some sort of housing maintenance has to be done.
    A single Ward. There are tons of other Wards for people to go to.
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  6. #236
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    TheUltimate3's Avatar
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    Daiza Auvec
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    My .002 cents.

    Considering housing space is in fact limited, if not a single member can log in for a month, the house should be removed. You should be given the deed and all the items inside should be saved somehow, yes. But the house shouldn't just sit there unoccupied when someone else could come and actually make use of the spot.

    And no, I really don't think SE should care if RL gets in the way of even one person logging in and checking in on the house. If nobody can even be bothered to do that then you really don't need the house.

    And I have this conclusion because I've seen what happens when homes just sit there abandoned by their owners and never move. Endless clusters of ghost towns.
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  7. #237
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    chocomaid's Avatar
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    Temis Altera
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    Logical person.
    Finally someone that can see the whole picture
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  8. #238
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Here let me play the devil's advocate for a bit. Lets say that after the first 35 days this is implemented, Cause I do believe SE is going to get a few houses that are inactive. So after the first 35 days what happens when No FC loses a house? If no one ever loses a house how will that help anyone? The point of this is to free up plots of lands for FCs that are active. What if none every come up for sale? Then what are FCs suppose to do? I play on a Legacy Server and there are still lots of Plots for sale. Maybe because the prices are to much for people? I don't know. But I do know many are waiting on more Wards so they can get into certain areas.


    As for this whole "Ghost Town" or Empty Wards thing how do you know? There are 30 Houses per ward, What if half of those FCs play when you are asleep. How would you know which FC is active and inactive? Are people going to go door to door to see who is home? "Oh I went to that house everyday this week and I didn't see anyone there, maybe we can buy their house soon". I doubt SE is going to be able to display days remaining for everyone to see, But I could be wrong. I don't walk out my FC door and say "Man this place sure is empty I don't see anyone"

    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    You WILL find a way to log on briefly to accommodate your possession .
    See that's the number one issue I have. If I take a break for a month with the intent of coming back before the 35 day, And something happens and I cant find away to get on I'll be screwed. If the time was 60-90 days then I would have enough time to get back to it. If for some reason I was unable to get back on by the 35th day and SE implemented a compensation plan like I suggested, Then I would only be out of furnishings. I could live with losing furnishing those are pretty easy to get back and the cost is very cheap. Where as if I did lose my house, I would then have to wait for another FC to lose their house so I could buy up another since SE doesn't want to add more Wards.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-13-2014 at 09:40 AM.

  9. #239
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    Tandy's Avatar
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    Tandy Thorne
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    -snip- Where as if I did lose my house, I would then have to wait for another FC to lose their house so I could buy up another since SE doesn't want to add more Wards.
    Let me ask you a question, if you did in fact lose your FC house...and your basically the sole person in your FC, would it not make more sense for you to get a "Personal house" since that is more in line with how your using it anyway? I am just asking, since the requirements for keeping a personal house will very very much be nothing like a FC one.

    I would also imagine they would likely never delete a personal one anyway. If its not totally instanced, as I suspect it might be, then they will treat it like LoTRO and have the 999999 wards everyone is asking for with FC housing.
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  10. 04-13-2014 10:21 AM

  11. #240
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    You should be given the deed and all the items inside should be saved somehow, yes.
    Yea, well, SE isn't doing that. SE wants to remove everything. Poof. Good bye. No matter how reasonable freeing up server space may be, it really doesn't excuse destroying people's hard work like that.
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