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  1. #161
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    well now i feel for the smaller fc's homes..so i'd say we bump it a 60-90 days then, for all homes.
    i also can see a group of friends huddling to another game for a while and leave this one for a bit.
    if none of u can log in by then in 60-90, then i can see it taking the boot. sorry, i would think
    the life outside this game is far more important for u not to be able to log, or found a more fun game
    or taking a bit of a hiatus just coz.
    i guess cough up the $10 - $15 if you worry alot for it.
    i can only agree with the OP here and with others the time is too short...also there is tons of spots open.
    i have like 3 neighbors in the small fc area lmao. idk why they need severs space?


    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Its ok if SE doesn't do anything about it. But when they do it to Personal Housing, There will be a lot more pissed off people than the few in this thread.
    yea if it's personal housing thats a huge ass problem and a half. sorry.
    it's more of a problem because it's a solo ordeal. i hope they don't do this there.
    who knows what the pricing will be or time limit. i'm iffy on the FC housing only coz there's more ppl invovled and only 1
    of them has to log in.

    just expand the days and ppl should be fine. so far se hasn't been handeling house 100% correctly
    so ima prepare myself for disappointment XDDD
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    Last edited by Luxx; 04-12-2014 at 09:00 AM.

  2. #162
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    Its ok if SE doesn't do anything about it. But when they do it to Personal Housing, There will be a lot more pissed off people than the few in this thread.
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    Jinro Oja
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    I really dislike this idea, but so long as it stays FC housing and not personal housing, I'll tolerate it. It's not something I think is great and I'd really prefer a longer period of time on this if they must do it, though.
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  4. #164
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    This is the same fuss people threw up about FC leadership being passed when someone is away for an extended period of time.

    The FC system is not designed for groups so small where it's conceivable that every single member will suddenly decide they're taking 2+ months off from the game.

    It's designed for large groups where it's assumed that if not even a single person can step inside a property for a single second over an entire month then the group is dead as a doornail.
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  5. #165
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    ^citation needed.

    Looks guys. It's simple. People have presented valid arguments showing that small FCs might be negatively affected by the short amount of time that SE mentioned. A valid suggestion has been to up the time to 90 days since that coincides with major content patches, and is a more reasonable amount of time considering we're talking about taking a large in-game investment from people. Any valid counter-argument against it being 90 days instead? No one has presented a single one yet, and it would negatively affect less people that way than the current plan. There is absolutely no reason to not support the people that could be boned by the current plan other than you simple have no empathy. Which makes you kind of a dbag.


    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    90 days is a bit much. If you base it between content patches anyone knows users spike at each patch so in essence the truly loyal are left out in the dark without a chance at a home in the worst case scenario.
    There isn't a finite amount of houses, since SE can (and should) just add more wards.
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    Last edited by Miburo; 04-12-2014 at 10:33 AM.

  6. #166
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    90 days is a bit much. If you base it between content patches anyone knows users spike at each patch so in essence the truly loyal are left out in the dark without a chance at a home in the worst case scenario.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    This is the same fuss people threw up about FC leadership being passed when someone is away for an extended period of time.

    The FC system is not designed for groups so small where it's conceivable that every single member will suddenly decide they're taking 2+ months off from the game.

    It's designed for large groups where it's assumed that if not even a single person can step inside a property for a single second over an entire month then the group is dead as a doornail.
    Well I hate to tell you this but there are 47,324 Small Free Companies that might disagree with you.... http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt=1-10&order=

    If SE didn't want people to have Small Free Companies then why does it only take 3 players to start one and not 30?



    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    90 days is a bit much. If you base it between content patches anyone knows users spike at each patch so in essence the truly loyal are left out in the dark without a chance at a home in the worst case scenario.
    Well you got one thing right. Most players who do take breaks return when a major patch is about to happen. Hence why 90 days would be plenty enough time. As for the "loyal" left in the dark, No they aren't. Again you people really think that taking someones house is actually going to fix the real issue. WE need more Wards.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-12-2014 at 10:19 AM.

  8. #168
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    I can see both sides on this but 35 days seems a tad short for them to jump right to utter razing the house to the ground and SE reclaiming the property. Groups take breaks from this game all the time. Maybe because they got burned out from raising the capital for the house?!

    Is it just me or is $E pulling off some really #&*@ moves lately?
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    Last edited by Diadumenos; 04-12-2014 at 10:48 AM. Reason: derp
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Well I hate to tell you this but there are 47,324 Small Free Companies that might disagree with you.... http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt=1-10&order=

    If SE didn't want people to have Small Free Companies then why does it only take 3 players to start one and not 30?
    How many of those 47324 free companies have houses? Hell, how many of them are even still active? If you took long enough to scroll down a bit you'd see a whole bunch of them have exactly one member, likely a leader that disappeared without breaking the FC and left everyone else to move on to a new group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
    ^citation needed.

    Looks guys. It's simple. People have presented valid arguments showing that small FCs might be negatively affected by the short amount of time that SE mentioned.
    35 is over a month - to my knowledge anyway. If no one in your FC plays for over a month or visit and utilize it even once a month, it's a waste and exactly why SE is clearing out unused properties/lots.

    No one gets 'boned", not big nor small FC - The only ones who "do" are the ones who don't use it beyond a status symbol. FC Houses, at least small, are in the 1-2 million or less range currently, one person could even pay for it if they're actually making gil, so "large investments lost" isn't anything, you don't already get your gil back and if you're not using the FC...

    ...You kind of thrown away your investment as is, so what's the difference?
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