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  1. #51
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    ItzKris's Avatar
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    Kris Hero
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    This is a horrible idea. If they spent so much on buying a home they shouldn't be limited by having to log in every 35 days. Sometimes FC's just need a break.
    Its bad planning to have to rely on people to not log on to sell their plots as opposed to having more plots.
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  2. #52
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    35 days is still pretty short though. A small FC that got a house are probably prople who already did most of the content.

    It is not uncommon for people to not log in for atleast a month. This affects small FC than it does larger ones.

    What president will this set? Once personal housing is established, will the same policy still exist? Will we need to subscribe on a monthly basis just to keep our home?
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  3. #53
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    Kelvani's Avatar
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    Kelvani Avendur
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    Goblin
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    Right now this is not an issue for my small Free Company as we have several people who are REALLY into gardening. With a lot of college students in our small ranks, we have a cyclical playtime for a lot of our members. When finals, midterms or a heavy project comes due they prioritize REAL LIFE over game. Which is how it should be. Also, with summer coming a lot of us will be chosing to spend quality time with our family and kids, outside enjoying the sun and the pool. I feel a more reasonable time frame would be 60-90 days, if they intend to implement this system.
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  4. #54
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    chocomaid's Avatar
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    Temis Altera
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50
    All in all the notion of reclaiming land is stupid as hell, as someone has said, the only reason they are doing this is because they are being cheap about servers. And all the counter arguments "if you don't go to your house for a long period, you don't NEED a house" is useless. No FC needs a house, they just WANT it. Also things like "Other FCs will benefit more instead of inactive houses", why not ask SE to make bigger lands instead of reclaiming it.

    Reclaiming stuff just because you haven't used it for a while is thinking backwards. Wouldn't you hate it if you yourself took a break and all your hard earned gear was taken away, because another "adventurer" needed it? Or you neglected your level 10 chocobo for "35 days" and it ran away because you didn't call it once? Stupid right? What's yours is yours, FCs small or large worked really hard to acquire those houses, they've spent real time, real money and effort to acquire those houses. Again, this might not be a problem for bigger FCs but there will be problems for smaller ones.

    As someone said this is also just a precedent to more stuff, just like with the retainers. Who knows what they'll put up on the mogstation for sale? Who knows what they'll "reclaim" in the future because they don't want to expand servers.
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  5. #55
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    Ildur's Avatar
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    Ulanan Ulan
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Yes, this is just another proof that Squee's servers are not only powered by hamsters but also that their server infrastructure was designed by hamsters. I can understand the argument of freeing space so that Wards do not get desserted, but this is plain stupid. It would be best if inactive houses were 'translocated' to unreacheable wards (think of it like a storage) and left there until the FC became active again. Then people could claim their house, which would be placed in a new ward.

    But they won't do that because hamsters.
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  6. #56
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    Taban's Avatar
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    Taban Highwind
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    A good compromise might be to have a coupon for a free plot of land of the same size as what was reclaimed put into the guild bank (along with a bound copy of all the furniture). That way we don't have rows of empty houses as people quit the game, but FC's that take breaks for a while aren't punished too harshly.
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  7. #57
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post
    Reclaiming stuff just because you haven't used it for a while is thinking backwards. Wouldn't you hate it if you yourself took a break and all your hard earned gear was taken away, because another "adventurer" needed it? Or you neglected your level 10 chocobo for "35 days" and it ran away because you didn't call it once? Stupid right? What's yours is yours, FCs small or large worked really hard to acquire those houses, they've spent real time, real money and effort to acquire those houses. Again, this might not be a problem for bigger FCs but there will be problems for smaller ones.
    +1000.


    Larger FCs aren't really going to be effected at all. Its going to be a very small minority of FCs that will even have to possibly deal with this issue. SE just needs to spend the money on opening more Wards, 21 plots left in Mist on my server and most of them are small. If there are FCs that have the funds to buy a house, chances are they are waiting for a specific plot they want or to build near. So the problem isn't FCs taking up space, It's a lack of spaces people want. I don't have an issue with SE doing this but it needs to be handled better. Extended the time period or give a Land Deed/Building Permit to the FC leader. I don't know what the actual chances are for a FC to lose their house because of inactivity, But I fall into that category. My FC started with 7 and is now 2. Could I invite more players to my FC? I sure could, But I cant really offer anything raiding wise as I already have a static. This game doesn't even have content made for more than 8 players in a FC. Maybe the day when they add 24 man content made server side then having a bigger FC will become a thing for me.

    This is going to start with FC housing and then move to Personal Housing when we get it in two years.
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  8. #58
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    lackofwords's Avatar
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    Dalimin Dataru
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I don't feel like this is a good way to handle inactive FC housing.
    If their intention was to solely free up room for more active FC, then it should try to promote the trade and bidding of land exchange.

    I don't think evicting an inactive FC house would give an equal chance an active FC of obtaining a house. But instead turns into a 'first come first serve' basis, like the initial launch of housing.
    You might instead have devoted people just loitering outside of an FC house looking at the time tick down. Is that what you really want, to further edge out the casual FCs for equal opportunity housing?

    As for the end user who owns a FC house, being forcefully evicted is akin to removal of inactive player accounts.
    No one want to lose things they have spent time and effort on obtaining. Regardless if they are actively using it or not.
    They want to know when they return to a game, that their belongings are still there, and not completely robbed from them.

    Either way, FC housing activities at the moment is still rather bare.
    At best there are a few crafters there that runs between the house and near by market boards, with an occasional person tending the gardens.
    At worst, people just AFK pose/dance there when there is nothing else to do.
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  9. #59
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    Miburo's Avatar
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    King Brohemoth
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Why not just add more wards?

    Does SE not make enough money to afford decent servers? Are they too incompetent to set up and run decent servers? What is the reason why they can't just add more wards?
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  10. #60
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by lackofwords View Post
    Either way FC housing activities at the moment is still rather bare.
    At best there are a few crafters there that runs between the house and near by market boards with an occasional person tending the gardens.
    At worst people just AFK dance there when there is nothing else to do
    There really isn't much to do in the house. But since I bought one a few weeks ago after months of savings, I'm there every day I'm on doing furnishings or just messing with my wife. Lots of stuff for housing to come in the future and it will be fun. One thing I liked about FFXI is my character was always there when I came back, No matter how long of a break I took. I had to take a break for over a year and it wasn't by choice but my mithra was always there ^^.

    I also thought that SE said there was going to be some kind of way to sell Plots after they were purchased? Cause I swear I seen some people say some stuff about RMTs buying up plots of land and selling them.
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