Overpower vs Steel Cyclone

[Cap75]

So far, and I'm only 48 so take this with a grain of salt, I've found OP more than sufficient to hold mobs in everything I've done. I'll usually toss one down between full rotations which is sufficient so far to allow me to not to have rotate through mobs yet. I'm sure this will change as things go on but I pretty much always save a full Wrath stack for IB. And I don't even have Flash as one of my additionals. Again though, I'm sure that will change as I go on and the fights get bigger with multiple mobs that need to grabbed/held.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

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i have a lot of fun playing WAR. and constantly gain new experience with it. there are many new things a WAR can try. whereas in my experiences of playing not only AS but also WITH other PLD's. it seems that the approach for a PLD is very linear and basic for any player. while again, the WAR is more versatile. allowing for more variety.


HOWEVER... the game is still early. and i suspect what WAR can do with actions. a PLD will be able to do with stats.

like you could make a STR PLD. you could make a DEX PLD. so both jobs offer alternate routes of progression and play style. the differences may just not be very apparent at this stage in the game.

[Inosaska]

i have a lot of fun playing WAR. and constantly gain new experience with it. there are many new things a WAR can try. whereas in my experiences of playing not only AS but also WITH other PLD's. it seems that the approach for a PLD is very linear and basic for any player. while again, the WAR is more versatile. allowing for more variety.

I have a warrior and got to say once hitting 50 the interest in tanking with it dropped to zero because it just feels like the class has to many abilities and is really hard to learn. I'm also told that it takes far longer to properly learn to tank on a warrior then it does on a paladin. It's probably because paladins abilities are more stream lined and not really all over the place like the warrior.

I would also like to add once I saw steel cyclone on wrath then I also just lost interest all together as paladin doesn't have such weird restrictions on its enmity generating abilities which makes it easier to learn to tank with and that just makes everyone gravitate towards paladin over warrior.

I don't understand why developers have the need to make one class really complicated to learn over another. I hope at some point in the future they clean up the warriors abilities and make it just as easy to learn as paladin is to learn.

[Vactus]

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Then roll a PLD? WAR isn't difficult. If you think WAR is complicated then you'd hate PGL and/or DRG. To make WAR play simple, leave Unchained and Steel Cyclone alone and only spam BB combo. There, you're now a gimped PLD. You just want two PLD jobs vs actual variety.

[Inosaska]

Then roll a PLD? WAR isn't difficult. If you think WAR is complicated then you'd hate PGL and/or DRG. To make WAR play simple, leave Unchained and Steel Cyclone alone and only spam BB combo. There, you're now a gimped PLD. You just want two PLD jobs vs actual variety.

Hate monk? I've been playing melee DPS for so long that this is not hard to play class at all. I find monk and summoner to be a pretty easy jobs to learn maybe its just experience in these roles from WoW(I played before they made the entire game a joke) because I played a rogue and warlock so I just have tons of experience with complex classes from that angle.

[Kitru]

I don't understand why developers have the need to make one class really complicated to learn over another. I hope at some point in the future they clean up the warriors abilities and make it just as easy to learn as paladin is to learn.

Because some people prefer a class with nuance as opposed to a mind numbingly simple one. If you want a simple tank that requires next to no forethought, play PLD. You're not being forced to play a WAR.

[Inosaska]

Because some people prefer a class with nuance as opposed to a mind numbingly simple one. If you want a simple tank that requires next to no forethought, play PLD. You're not being forced to play a WAR.

I never thought to use the controller but going to give it a shot and see how well I do with it maybe that will solve my to many buttons problem for me and also it will be nice to sit back in the chair too. I guess I jumped the gun a little to fast heh oh well live and learn.

Does anyone know if its possible to make a marking macro for marking the targets in order? Like it automatically will pick the next target and mark it and so forth.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

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well i think you can. but i forget the regular command for the target. i think maybe /targetnext and /targetprevious.

but you can always look in a game manual or something. the manual has all the commands you can use.

either way, those targeting commands are not good in a macro. just IMO. i would imagine there is a command to target only aggro'ed enemies.


it would be nice to see a command to target the letter each enemy is assigned to.



other then that... i prefer to cycle the targets and mark them myself. though some people never learned how to count >_> lol