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  1. #11
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    Yurimi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    If you can deal with chaotic ( Yes I am looking at you first boss w/ your orange lines EVERYWHERE!) then yes it's so called "easy" well at least to me even though I get threw it without any deaths, the fact that the dungeon keeps me on my toes I consider that hard, if I were to slack off and not concentrate I would die.
    orrr you could just stand in 1 spot behind the tank east only 2 paths at most will appear in any given spot and 1 cure 3 your back to full no dps loss =P
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Brayflox normal. Level 32, Sync from 34. Tanks nearly dying with the normal pulls. Dps can't go fast.
    Brayflox HM. Level 50, minimum requirement ilvl 55. Does not sync. Can get people up to ilvl100+. Have many forms of accessible AoEs, tanks able to tank 8 pulls at a time.

    There's the illusion that it's "easier". Go do it with a group of ilvl 55s and then tell me that it is easier. Tell me you can get a tank at ilvl 55 that can pull up to the 2nd ceourl, tank it long enough for the DPS to kill it.
    read up I already did it with people not even in half darklight its not hard even close to minimum iLv. takes a bit longer sure since cant multi pull AoE but its still faster and easier than normal mode
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  3. #13
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    read up I already did it with people not even in half darklight its not hard even close to minimum iLv. takes a bit longer sure since cant multi pull AoE but its still faster and easier than normal mode
    And you think that's not the case in brayflox hardmode? Do it with a group of ilvl 55-60. Tell me you can ignore the snipers in the 1st pull and that it wont be hectic doing bomber man as well. Tell me you can ignore the adds and survive the mechanics of the 2nd. Above all that last boss see how it goes with the bombs and adds.
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  4. #14
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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    ...No, there's far less trash mobs in general...bosses are VERY close to each other, (some trash you can even skip) and full of DL gear in almost every chest lol. It's an extremely easy "hard mode", it's what you'd call "normal mode" and Brayflox Story is "easy mode".

    The hardest part of the dungeon are the gliders.
    'Trash mobs' don't really make a dungeon difficult, they just make it longer. Hopefully SE has just finally learned that longer dungeons =/= fun.
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  5. #15
    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Brayflox normal. Level 32, Sync from 34. Tanks nearly dying with the normal pulls. Dps can't go fast.
    Brayflox HM. Level 50, minimum requirement ilvl 55. Does not sync. Can get people up to ilvl100+. Have many forms of accessible AoEs, tanks able to tank 8 pulls at a time.

    There's the illusion that it's "easier". Go do it with a group of ilvl 55s and then tell me that it is easier. Tell me you can get a tank at ilvl 55 that can pull up to the 2nd ceourl, tank it long enough for the DPS to kill it.
    If your tanks are almost dying every pull, then they're wearing bad gear, the healers are bad, or both. As for HM? If you're undergeared you don't need to pull the entire room right at the start. You can, ya know, slow down and pull individual packs (just like normal. WOW!).

    So yeah, i55 HM Brayflox is still easier than normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    And you think that's not the case in brayflox hardmode? Do it with a group of ilvl 55-60. Tell me you can ignore the snipers in the 1st pull and that it wont be hectic doing bomber man as well. Tell me you can ignore the adds and survive the mechanics of the 2nd. Above all that last boss see how it goes with the bombs and adds.
    You don't need to ignore mobs.
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  6. #16
    Player
    Yurimi's Avatar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    And you think that's not the case in brayflox hardmode? Do it with a group of ilvl 55-60. Tell me you can ignore the snipers in the 1st pull and that it wont be hectic doing bomber man as well. Tell me you can ignore the adds and survive the mechanics of the 2nd. Above all that last boss see how it goes with the bombs and adds.
    /facepalm I ALREADY DID PLEASE LEARN TO READ
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  7. #17
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    Lita Nambu
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Tanks have their complete skillset (tanking as a PLD sucks at these levels imo), everyone is overgeared for the instance and people are a bit more experienced at their class.
    Of course Brayflox HM is easier to complete than the lv32 version.
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  8. #18
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    'Trash mobs' don't really make a dungeon difficult, they just make it longer. Hopefully SE has just finally learned that longer dungeons =/= fun.
    A dungeon can be long as long as it's not making it long for the wrong reasons. I do appreciate SE putting decent damaging moves on trash mobs that you "can't escape from". I don't mind the escap-able moves but at least throw in some moves that can't be dodged, I think they finally learned that.
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  9. #19
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    Temis Altera
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50
    I don't understand the comparison though. Both NM and HM are easy. The only difference is, you can outgear the other.
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  10. #20
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    /facepalm I ALREADY DID PLEASE LEARN TO READ
    I read, your term of "easier" is subjective. There's more mechanics overall in hardmode than there is in easy.
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