SMN DPS: Pushing it to the limit

[Altimis]

lol necromancer with no answer to my previous post

Oh by the way, ignore my previous post (02-28-2014) please, its shame to ask stupid question like that, I was newb at that time

I finally mastered my SMN, until now, no one can rival me so far ... boring

PS. Your pic is funny, Cons

[Wrydas]

Quick update, I was able to push crit to 600 with crafted and food. To date the highest I've pulled in t5 is 430 dps, Lev x 370 dpsand t6/7 350 dps. I often stream my runs and post the dps charts, check it out. Twitch.TV/wrydas217

[Legionne]

A good rotation I found is to start the fight with RS>> Bio(instant dot)>>> followed by Bio 2(Longest standing dot) >>> followed by Miasma (second longest standing dot)>>> run up to target and apply Miasma 2>>> followed by Contagion(will boost all applied dots, increasing their duration by nearly double)>>>apply fester>>>> followed by swift cast>>>Shadow flare >>> reapply Bio>>> Fester>>> ruin x3, and Fester and reapply all dots when necessary. Also apply Spur/kindle whenever off cool down.

tip:
If you are new to summoner or have a bad PC/bad internet service, don't take your pet off sic. Keep your pet on Heel, and let him apply his attacks on his own. The computer auto attack is always faster than obey and attack. You will lose a lot of dps if you manually try to apply his commands.

[xxalucard]

tip:
If you are new to summoner or have a bad PC/bad internet service, don't take your pet off sic. Keep your pet on Heel, and let him apply his attacks on his own. The computer auto attack is always faster than obey and attack. You will lose a lot of dps if you manually try to apply his commands.

This is completely wrong. You will gain dps if you manually apply all of Garuda's commands (efficiently).

Sic is a command that should never be used, period. People with bad PC's or bad internet service should not use Sic either.

[Legionne]

This is completely wrong. You will gain dps if you manually apply all of Garuda's commands (efficiently).

Sic is a command that should never be used, period. People with bad PC's or bad internet service should not use Sic either.

It's not completely wrong because I tried it both ways, on different computers, and how your internet service or computer runs will affect how efficiently your pet cast. Not all computers are made equal.

[Wolfenkritter]

tip:
If you are new to summoner or have a bad PC/bad internet service, don't take your pet off sic. Keep your pet on Heel, and let him apply his attacks on his own. The computer auto attack is always faster than obey and attack. You will lose a lot of dps if you manually try to apply his commands.

That is bad idea for several reasons. In Garuda's case, if set to Sic she will:
1) Waste Contagion recklessly
2) Use Aerial Slash which will cause her DPS to drop against single targets due to its 3 sec casting time
3) Use Shockwave if an enemy approaches her, which will annoy everyone

You just don't have Garuda on Sic ever. All SMNs should have her set to Obey, its an important habit anyway.

Ifrit though... if you're using him, can sortof get away with being left on Sic. The only real downsides are that he will use his Stun move (Which can be dangerous in certain fights) and that he'll slow his DPS a bit using Radiant Shield (Though isn't as bad as Garuda).

[Legionne]

1) Garuda egi contagion is the third ability to get cast. I always had enough time to cast, RS, Bio, Bio 2 Miasma, before Contagion would proc, hence it wouldn't be wasted needlessly. As a summoner you should always keep your dots stacked through out the entire fight anyways.

2) True, this is the one draw back when using garuda on sic, against a single boss fight, but I found in the case of mob fights like in Turn 4, and phase 1, 2, 3, possibly 4 of turn 5 it actually doesn't matter, because you apply Bane to the group.

3) Garuda only uses shockwave, when your Garuda is in close proximity to an NPC. She won't utilize this ability when you are a fair distance away (about 15 yalms) from the target.

4) As I stipulated before, I only recommend this course of action when latency is a problem for you or you are new to the job.

[Madoka]

Latency or being new doesn't matter for Contagion. It's not only off-GCD, but you can tell her to use it while you're casting anything. There's literally zero reason not to have her on Obey no matter how bad you are or how "bad" your internet is.

[Legionne]

Latency or being new doesn't matter for Contagion. It's not only off-GCD, but you can tell her to use it while you're casting anything. There's literally zero reason not to have her on Obey no matter how bad you are or how "bad" your internet is.

The summoner out of all the jobs has one of the steepest learning curves in the game, and for this reason you have an auto attack. While other jobs only have themselves to worry about, the Summoner must be responsible for his/her pet as well as his/her self. If you are not familiar with a boss fight or do not have a super fast connection, you will be a liability to your group if you keep losing your pet or get yourself killed.

Learning how to play your job takes incremental steps, and learning how to play with respect to your connection and hardware is also essential.

[Seobit]

Thought this was a thread about mastering SMN, not training wheel garudas.