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    Is Hydaelyn a primal?

    It's just, she's referred to as a primal by Ifrit, and we collect crystals for her much like the Beastmen do to power up their primals.

    Are we tempered by hydaelyn? o.O
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    We don't know what hydaelyn is exactly she has some kind of tempering ability, linked to the echo that protect us from other primals, but don't seem( to be able ? )to control us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    We don't know what hydaelyn is exactly she has some kind of tempering ability, linked to the echo that protect us from other primals, but don't seem( to be able ? )to control us.
    We could very well believe we have freedom of choice only because our master tells us we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    We could very well believe we have freedom of choice only because our master tells us we do.
    So she tells us to stand in our inn, que up for dungeons, cap sold, never talk to anyone? :P
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    from what I have seen it seems that she is the giant crystal in the flow of aether below Eorzea, only by our contact have we been given the power of the echo and the immunity to tempering (remember this happens at the start of the story, even 1.0 from the "hear, feel, think, which is Hydaelyn" But I don't think she is a primal as we know them, the closest thing we worship to the primals is the twelve, as they can be summoned, and given at least a partial corporeal form as seen in the end of an era, and was a big part of the end of the 1.0 story. It's also touched upon in the story when some from Little Ala Mhigo wanted to summon Rhalgr that if completely summoned the twelve could even posses the power to temper. So yeah I don't think Hydaelyn is a primal as we know them but perhaps something more than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    So she tells us to stand in our inn, que up for dungeons, cap sold, never talk to anyone? :P
    That...Actually makes a lot of sense. >A>()
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    Well not much is known now since 2.2 didn't cover much. As we go farther into 2.X storyline every 3 months (3 months per Major Update) we may learn more.

    and then sometime after 2.4, 2.5, or 2.6 if we still don't have the answer we may get it in 1st expansion storyline since Yoshi-P did say he wants to release expansion within 2 years after release.
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    I think technically she is, but I'm not sure if it will ever be discussed.

    I mean she acts as the saving deity to the Hyur/Roegdayn/Miq'ote/Lalafell in the same way that the other Primals do to their respective beastmen. We gather her enough crystals, she comes and buffs us up to annihilate our foes.

    We probably have been tempered by Hydaelyn, we just don't know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    from what I have seen it seems that she is the giant crystal in the flow of aether below Eorzea, only by our contact have we been given the power of the echo and the immunity to tempering (remember this happens at the start of the story, even 1.0 from the "hear, feel, think, which is Hydaelyn" But I don't think she is a primal as we know them, the closest thing we worship to the primals is the twelve, as they can be summoned, and given at least a partial corporeal form as seen in the end of an era, and was a big part of the end of the 1.0 story. It's also touched upon in the story when some from Little Ala Mhigo wanted to summon Rhalgr that if completely summoned the twelve could even posses the power to temper. So yeah I don't think Hydaelyn is a primal as we know them but perhaps something more than them.
    Anyone tempered by a primal is immune to the tempering of another primal, hence Ifrit's confusion when he is unable to temper us. And the crystals gives the primals the power to exist in our world, much like Hydaelyn needs that same very power to come forth and help us in our time of need. But I guess it's hard to really know until they explain further.

    It would be very interesting to know if she is using us, and the Arcons know of this and are trying to prevent it. It would sort of be like a red herring.
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    Each Primal has an aspect.
    Ifrit is fire. Garuda is wind. Titan, earth. Etc.
    Each of the Twelve also have an aspect, though most are abstract.
    Halone is Fury. Menphina is Love. Althyk is Time. Etc.

    So if Hydaelyn is a Primal, what would its aspect be? Freedom? Adventure? Creation itself?

    Freedom fits with how our characters seem to be untempered. In actuality, our characters would belong to Hydaelyn, but are essentially doing as we see fit. However, Freedom and Adventure seem like they might step on Oschon's toes.
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