rip PvP

[Epistane]

Haven't gotten a single PvP queue since the brand new exciting (lol) patch. Altho I only wait 1 hour max and haven't been logging on everyday.. But I shouldn't have to FFS. How are queue times my fellow PvPers?? I have healers on my server saying usually 2 hours+

p.s SE if you are reading this please fix pvp queues, seriously, I remember when everyone was saying "2.2 is when everything will get better" LOL, rip

edit: rank 30 btw sooooooo maybe that might cause these poverty queues idk?

[ArkYenInVerse]

Solution: Keep the way they changed matchmaking, but get rid of data center restrictions for PvP.

OR

Get rid of this matchmaking, at least till Frontlines comes out. Long queues are turning away the usual pvpers which are making even longer queues. Maddening.

[Eikko_Fenrir]

Or maybe its the full rank 30 pvpers owning newer ppl to pvp that's turned them away?

[Epistane]

Or maybe its the full rank 30 pvpers owning newer ppl to pvp that's turned them away?

One of the reasons yes, and a big reason too. But what are rank 30's to do though? It's not the player's fault at all. It's SE'S fault period. Hell we tried on Behemoth to stop ( or least attempt ) to stop queueing as rank 30s together to prevent steamrolling newer players, full pug teams... Yeah.

It's not the player's fault, rank 30, rank 5 million it dosen't matter. It's SE's fault for such a piece of shit ranking/matchmaking system, and not giving a flying shit and waiting weeks/months to address major issues in PvP

EDIT: But you are right, rank 30s steamrolling new teams ofc made queues worse and turned off newer players.

@Ark, I agree. Get rid of data center restrictions, and instead of this "matchmaking system with ranks". Do it by rating. Everyone starts off at a specific rating, ofc the teams with rank 30s will win at first, but then if they get to the higher ratings they'll only play other higher rated teams which will most likely be other rank 30s. Lower ranked players might lose to rank 30 teams at first but eventually ratings will balance out

[x037x]

Makes you wonder pvp dev team has been doing since the release of pvp....

[Vaeria]

Agree with the get rid of data center restriction part, but at the same time, the rank restriction's gotta go. This has to be the one and only pvp version where I've seen devs bend over backwards to cater to beginners so much. Wtf...are we trying to achieve 'Perfect World' pvp where everyone gets rose scented toilet paper and a back massage while taking a crap after a hard match? Seriously, whats all the sheltering for? I'd hate to use that 'back in my day line' but jeez lol, things were just fine the way they were. If ya didn't like a vet stepping all over you, ya did one of two things: Got better, ranked, geared and stepped back on him....or just quit. Sorry but all this mess is EXACTLY why I go for noobs first chance I get. If you show up to pvp for 1 match thinking you'll 1-shot everyone, get steamrolled and give up just like that, why should people who actually really enjoy pvp have to be penalized? Matches were going considerably more when there was no rank restriction.

[Memoe]

Or maybe, you know, make PvP actually interesting?

It has way too many restrictions abilitywise and gearwise etc. Seriously though. SE should make gaining abilities and resetting them much easier to add variety and strategy to PvP.

Make PvP gear not increase your stats but let people decide their build themselves while rendering PvP gear vanity only or something, maybe?

[Kabooa]

Or maybe, you know, make PvP actually interesting?

It has way too many restrictions abilitywise and gearwise etc. Seriously though. SE should make gaining abilities and resetting them much easier to add variety and strategy to PvP.

Make PvP gear not increase your stats but let people decide their build themselves while rendering PvP gear vanity only or something, maybe?

Tried saying that.

Got called a Soccer Mom.

Because fair and competitive PvP at all times is apparently bad.

[Epistane]

Tried saying that.

Got called a Soccer Mom.

Because fair and competitive PvP at all times is apparently bad.

We want competetive PvP. Thats why they should add a rating system for 4v4, so rank 30s can compete against each other. Arena style pvp should NOT be the way to grind for PvP gear, it was SE's fault for making a derp move in the first place and adding arena before frontlines. So ofc if no one queues 4v4 (which there isnt a reason to because theres no ladder or rating system) then where else will rank 30s go? That's right, to non 4v4. I know what you are getting at, making it so that everyone's gear is equal so that way non 4v4 queues will be competitive, I understand.

But at the same time you have to understand, this is an MMO, majority of people play MMOs to progress and get powerful gear. If they can't use that gear other than to look "cool" (lol), then it's natural people will rage

Best way to fix is it add ladder/rating/leaderboards to 4v4 so people with the best gear will be interested in queuing 4v4. This should filter out a lot rank 30's since we'll be wanting to 4v4 to push rating and make it to top ratings. At the same time release frontlines so that way people newer to PvP can use that to grind for rank/skills/rank 30 gear, then when they are ready they can step foot in arena for more competitive PvP. IF they did that then they can add a "skirmish" mode for non4v4, where gear can scale down at lvl 50's. But to simply just make all PvP gear scale without any of the above additions is meh..

EDIT: Lettuce be reality, FF XIV hasn't bought anything new to the MMO table (well maybe a few things it did), what it did do however is copy a bunch of stuff from other successful MMOs and put them together to make itsself successful (which ofc nothing wrong witht that). Just copy the best aspects of other MMO's arena/rating/ladder system, voila

[Genny]

in my opinion PvP was 1 of most fun things in game, but thanks for 2.2 it takes 10 times longer to find party now via df. weekly performance was 150-250 fights before 2.2, and now its 25, spend about same time on seeking. thank you for all those peoples who didnt even want to learn PvP. instead of actually doing it and trying to learn, they complained on forums, and SE just made things even worse adding penalty for more experienced PvP players. Those who are still saying that gears arent equal etc. do you think that SE just gave rank30 to some peoples, NO! they actually had to work their asses off to get that rank 30. If you want more equal fights just do 30 and 40 where morale does not effect! And dont except you will win first fight, becouse it probably takes longer to learn play PvP than just 10-20 tries. Just go do it and learn, its only way!