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  1. #21
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    DarkStar's Avatar
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    Kitty Softpaw
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
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    I believe you're missing the overall point here, Samson. The overall point is that purely luck-based grinds make it so some people are like you and get their Atma weapon in 1-2 days, while others are like myself or Hayward who have yet to get a single Atma weapon after over a week. Now, admittedly, I haven't been spending every single waking moment grinding FATEs. This is because I am sane, and have a life outside the game. Instead, I usually dedicate about two hours per day to grinding for Atmas. In this manner, I have manage to get 3 out 12 Atmas. However, I know people who've been grinding even longer than I have and still don't have all their Atmas.

    I'm not asking to have the Atma Weapon handed to me on a silver platter. I'm not asking for something that's supposed to be a long and involved grind to take less than a day even for people who don't focus on it. What I'm asking for is some way of observing my progress outside of random drops which, as the name implies, have no pattern to their drop rate. If you still think I'm asking to have my Atma weapon simply given to me by SE, I'm sorry but I don't know how to make my point any clearer.
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  2. #22
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 70
    It's obvious This guy's nothing more than an "I got mine, F U" troll given his last sentence. There's no reasoning with that kind of obliviousness. I'd like to hope the developers aren't as hardheaded as the XI devs were for so many years to attempt to justify such a progression system based merely on luck.
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  3. #23
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    Xhavdak Daleborn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 50
    There's an issue with ATMA?

  4. #24
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    Jonny_Tapas's Avatar
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    Jonny Tapas
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    I kinda feel like Atma is the alternative!

    You can be skilled or practiced enough to learn Levi EX or Coil for a weapon upgrade.

    or... If you're not into Trails and Raids

    There is the easy but grindy option. You have a choice... invest focused practice or invest mindless time. If you want both... welp... put in the work... such is life!

    My only concern is I'm the type of player to avoid the grind and go for the content gear... But I don't want 16 patches later to find no relevant option for relic and have to go back to square 1 way behind the curve.
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  5. #25
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    Duke Burden
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    There's nothing wrong with Atma. Play the RNG game like you already do with dungeon loot and move on. Stop compaining.
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  6. #26
    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    It's obvious This guy's nothing more than an "I got mine, F U" troll given his last sentence. There's no reasoning with that kind of obliviousness. I'd like to hope the developers aren't as hardheaded as the XI devs were for so many years to attempt to justify such a progression system based merely on luck.
    Oh so I am a troll? Because I mentioned I had gotten mine in 2 days that's news to me.

    FFXI devs were awesome the game lasted years because of the choices they made, Now I get it you called me a troll because you're a hater.
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  7. #27
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    (>....>

    Whao my book is getting up of names!
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  8. #28
    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
    I believe you're missing the overall point here.
    So you're saying I don't have a life and I am crazy? I have less 50's than hayward and I don't hop on as much as you probably think I do since you implied I have no life.
    (Friday Saturday Sunday) or what ever days you have off, you say I have better luck everyone has the same luck, I don't know how you want them to show you progression when it's random. I guess some people have a low attention span.

    Wanna know how I did it, I didn't teleport because I thought it would reset progression. I didn't change zones I stuck to fates in a small area, I did a few fates took a break did what ever outside of the game came back did a few more done.
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  9. #29
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    You make it seem like it's hard to get level 50s.
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  10. #30
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    Morri Umi
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 60
    The challenge log is new. The book upgrade system is new and that part of the atma quest line I really like. Sure it's a bit grindy but there's a real feeling of progression as your completing it as the boxes get ticked and your weapon get upgraded. As someone mentioned previously tying the atma's to the challenge log (think of it as proving yourself as an adventurer to be worthy of the items). It would have been a very nice alternative to the lottery we have now.
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