Leves should be removed or atleast downplayed for overall gameplay?

[danny52844]

Leves are fine and good if they can
A) balance the SP (there is a reason everyone does leves in Thanalan..) no one wants to take Gnats over dunesfolk ect...
B) Allow us to select the full list (partial lists just lead to failing over and over...)

im not saying leves are bad im just saying thier bad as the backbone of the game i know many wouldnt agree that making partying the back bone would be good either but thats y i keep saying that with partying being the backbone thier should be many other alternatives
while if leves are the base with alternatives it still isnt good because leves are so easy to start and do it becomes an inconenience to not do them exp/sp wise and might curve ur game play
so i guess what im saying is make the harder / slower thing to set up the backbone while the lesser / more casual stuff / lesser exp be the support

[Rinsui]

Leves are the dreaded dailies many modern games try to avoid:
Too good to be skipped (relatively high SP for relatively low effort), but boring as hell.

[Seif]

I completely agree. Also the content outside of leve's should be DIFFERENT not just the same leves started by npcs.

Leves are by far the worst aspect of this entire game but I do acknowledge the fact that there is nothing outside of leves to do.

Playing this game is like doing the same quest over and over again without any variety in sight. Actually it's worse in most games there are plenty of non repeatable quests and completing them gives you story progression and cutscenes like in XI but in XIV your only reward is the exact same plea for help without anything changing in the world ever.

[Drogyn]

Unfortunately the casual gamer demands something easy like leves to progress. Personally I think the only way we are going to see parties is if they make it worth our while.

This is an MMO afterall and I play one because I like to play with other people. It sucks to play solo or just craft for the downtime between leve resets (Im definitely a hardcore gamer).

I'm hopeful dungeons, among other things, will give us all something to do besides wait for the reset counter.

[Laughlyn]

hm, the leves are optional, there's no one forcing you to do them.

[Drex]

hm, the leves are optional, there's no one forcing you to do them.

Optional with what?

Raptors are the only grind-mob in game that gives you not crappy sp......but only @ 40R ..lol

with the right 4 leves me and my mates do like 60-65k ... and it takes 1:30hs....

furthermore the difficulty of these contents is a joke....

There are so many people who cap 2-3 classes with leves...then, one day go to raptors camp, and dont know anything... positions... other classes abilities... sometimes even how to use, in the right way, their own abilities...lol

none forces us to do leves, but to decide to dont do them is stupid.... you can cap classes in no time, with no skill and no concentration...

Fortunately Yoshi wanna implement chain.... so we can choose....

[Vackashken]

hm, the leves are optional, there's no one forcing you to do them.

Gotta love those retarded circular logic rebuttals.

[weeble]

i agree with op, i want leves totally gone. they are not fun, i hate having to grind in statics over whenever. i don't enjoy leves it's way to much down times inbetween the mob kills, too much down time between starting leves and going to new zones an the hole process i just bullshit.

no matter how u look at it, it is repetitive ..the only fun part is that it's party play, but again u need to static to do it the best way so u'r not going out with new players everyday like in ffxi where u almost never party with same people even if you party every day 16hours a day. (witch is awesomeness)

besides that no one regular grinds rarely, i know i don't, it's not worth doing i'm already about to hit all rank 50 classes without doing behest or any regular grinding since the start of game. it became the main sp'ing source rather then a booste of sp for casual players and the rest of us. they should make it so that they are twice the sp but only doable maybe once a month or something. or same sp but once a week if even then rest of week will create players willing to grind.

also would like to see big mobs being killable again for good sp, the first battle system was better in that u can kill hardest mobs and get that max 500 sp and was pretty awsome. was like campaign battles system but for regular grinds, i thought it was genious though needed alot of work an fixes to work fairly and correctly. and of course dynamic mobs with tons of enfeebleing,defleebling and all that stuff will be great ...

[Greencactaur]

after reading some of
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Zone-Long-OP
i started to think that this is an amazing idea but it just wont work that well with leve's
i mean why should i party when i can just get more exp from leves, yes leves might only be done once every day and a half but still whenever i do a leve i dont feel like doing anything else and just get off. why shouldn't partying be the mainstream of the system so that we can enjoy our leveling up while leves could be that thing on the side that you can do while you wait for a party. maybe we could even remove leves and add other things
sorry for bringing up ff11 but things like campaign that i personally thought was amazing and fun that also leveled me up slowly (fast enough for me to not say fk it ill kill easy match things) but nothing compared to a party and i was content and having fun why cant we have that just to keep this game off the YOU HAVE TO PARTY OR ILL EAT YOUR HEAD BLAHHH like from ff11

td;dr why not have slower exp rates for solo play while partying being the mainstream

edit: what i really want to say is (bringing up 11 again srry) but in 11 id always party and then when the party would end id go in the past and do campaign or the awesomeness that was garrison (hard to set up yes but awesomeness was included) just saying wouldnt that be a good FF to enjoy?

Problem is Leve's which FF players seem to think is a unique idea is just simple dailies. The daily cap is 8 a day. I don't know how anyone can think leve's aren't quests. Cause they are. No heres the issue SE focused to much on stopping rmt they forgot about the actual game. Therefore they said just throw in dailies. Yeah good now throw in a few random mobs. Great lets release the game.

[weeble]

yes green i like what u said on how they worried and preempted things like rmt and ruin the game, they also premeted other things and it ruin game. from one mob at a time to stop things like summoner burns to gear swaps at any level where everyone can wear anything. to no caps on battles/missions to preempt people complaining cause years later they get hard to find and make groups for.... all these things ruined this game completely and leves are part of this problem that needs to be fixed.