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  1. #21
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    So many non-crafters replying here that it isn't funny. The rarity of the non-junk items is no where near what almost everyone here thinks. So far I'd put it in the 5-10% range. My retainer even brought me back discontinued and legacy server only items... (I am non-legacy). And who cares about rushing to level your retainer to 50. So it can what, farm you 3 hippogryph skins or something per hour? Give me a break. Venture tokens cost me next to nothing to keep my retainer going for almost free to bring stuff back worth more than a majority of players can farm in a week.


    I've spent quite a bit of time crafting, leveling them up, and now working towards being able to make all of the new items released in this patch. It is quite insulting to myself and fellow crafters to see level 10 retainers pulling in items before we even have the chance to make it.
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  2. #22
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    How is me saying I don't like something a little bit take away from your "nice thing"?
    Because SE takes "complaints" somewhat seriously sometimes
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  3. #23
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    Varsir Ishtear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I've spent quite a bit of time crafting, leveling them up, and now working towards being able to make all of the new items released in this patch. It is quite insulting to myself and fellow crafters to see level 10 retainers pulling in items before we even have the chance to make it.
    As a fellow crafter, I don't feel insulted at all. There's a retainer out there that brought back a 3 star furnishing item, a Manor Marching Horn. The person then proceeded to make a video of it, showing that the item actually makes music.

    How long would it have taken me to overmeld to make that item, only to find out that the item I wanted to craft wasn't what I was hoping and I ended up wasting my time?
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    The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But you are not here to see it..

  4. #24
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    Merciless Marquess
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    Because SE takes "complaints" somewhat seriously sometimes
    Good. I don't think a retainer should be gathering 3 star crafted items when they are lvl 10, I don't care how rarely it shows up. We don't know how common those items will show up when every has their retainers at 50 so let's not assume that it won't have any sizable impact on the game economy.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    Good. I don't think a retainer should be gathering 3 star crafted items when they are lvl 10, I don't care how rarely it shows up. We don't know how common those items will show up when every has their retainers at 50 so let's not assume that it won't have any sizable impact on the game economy.
    This is not an issue though. "Oh look my retainer brought back a 3 star crafted item" All I see it as is another thing to make money off of. It's 100% random and very rare to get something incredible. I can't count how many times my retainers brought back HQ fish and only 2 pieces of Darklight total
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  6. #26
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    Good. I don't think a retainer should be gathering 3 star crafted items when they are lvl 10, I don't care how rarely it shows up. We don't know how common those items will show up when every has their retainers at 50 so let's not assume that it won't have any sizable impact on the game economy.
    Sounds more like you're salty that somebody you know got something really cool and your retainers keep bringing you back junk. Not sure why everyone has to run to the forums and cry about every little thing that SE implements. Either it's not good enough or it's not fair...blah blah.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflie View Post
    As a fellow crafter, I don't feel insulted at all. There's a retainer out there that brought back a 3 star furnishing item, a Manor Marching Horn. The person then proceeded to make a video of it, showing that the item actually makes music.

    How long would it have taken me to overmeld to make that item, only to find out that the item I wanted to craft wasn't what I was hoping and I ended up wasting my time?
    But it's already that way for every furnishing item. The only preview for what furnishing items look like is a tiny icon. Having a retainer bring that item back insults crafters and hurts the economy because now there is one less person who is overmelding their gear and trying to craft these new items.
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  8. #28
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    So you're terrified that you can win in a lottery basically?

    Moving on to other threads...
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    This is not an issue though. "Oh look my retainer brought back a 3 star crafted item" All I see it as is another thing to make money off of. It's 100% random and very rare to get something incredible. I can't count how many times my retainers brought back HQ fish and only 2 pieces of Darklight total
    Everyone keeps telling me how incredibly rare these items are (not as rare as you think, 1/1000 prob), yet these same people say as retainers level up they're be more likely to bring back these rare items. So once everyone has their retainers at lvl 50 these items are going to show up 1/500? 1/100? Given how easy it is to farm ventures there is no way this won't hurt the economy and crfaters in the long run.
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  10. #30
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    Man Dudez
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    This is not an issue though. "Oh look my retainer brought back a 3 star crafted item" All I see it as is another thing to make money off of. It's 100% random and very rare to get something incredible. I can't count how many times my retainers brought back HQ fish and only 2 pieces of Darklight total
    I can count and it has been at least one per day. Now double that if you pay for extra retainers and the items start to add up fast. It is an issue because crafters are working on EARNING those items with hard spent time and retainers are just bringing them back for free at a fraction of the time spent.
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