Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.