My two cents on the ATMA Issue

[Xetter]

See i'm 4/12 those took about 6 hours. After 3 hours on my 7th i logged out. I'll try more later.

I really don't see the problem. You have the option of teaming up with people or going solo. You can do it whenever you want. You can do other stuff if you fancy a break.

I get the RNG sucks and the skill is minimal and it takes alot of time but so does loads of things on other mmo's or normal games.

If it locked you out of DF or something then i'd care. I have been learning EX primals whilst farming them.

I hope by the time I finish I may be up to Levi EX anyway.

The main thing that annoys me is there is no checklist. Makes it feel like its not even a real quest.

[nocks]

Square put probably twenty minutes into designing this quest, and they want me to spend twenty hours on it? Just replaying old material with nothing added or changed? No thanks. And since I am a casual player (though I've slowly gotten up to ilevel 88) I haven't been able to finish Garuda EX, let alone Leviathan EX, from Duty Finder groups. I'm basically left with no weapon I can attain, and have more or less stopped playing.

[Kyana]

I don't know why SE doesn't implement a system where the chances for a drop increase with the number of FATEs you finish in an area.
Or some sort of system with hints when to farm which zone depending on the "birthday" and deity of your character.

We can't win a fight against rng, no matter how skilled we are or how much time we invest, it's unpredictable.
That's not a bad thing and I'm for a certain level of rng in this game, but there should be things you can do to improve your odds.

[timeteo]

lol half the time when i do these i am not really paying attention still only 4/12 and have put about 16 hours into it. when you max 40k seals just by doing these you have done too many lol. slowly becoming rich at 50-100 gil per fate at least that is one good thing from the endles grind. thought of this catching toon last night on mindless fate grinding.

"ITs a fate that never ends"
"it goes on and on my friends"
"Some people started questing it not knowing what time sink is was"
"but they will continue questing it for relic just because"

*repeat*

thank god its friday maybe i will have some luck with ps4 this weekend.

[mythicrose]

See i'm 4/12 those took about 6 hours. After 3 hours on my 7th i logged out. I'll try more later.

I really don't see the problem. You have the option of teaming up with people or going solo. You can do it whenever you want. You can do other stuff if you fancy a break.

This kind of post is what riles others up. You've gotten 4 in six hours which is pretty good. Many others, like myself, spent twelve hours just getting a single atma. Other have even had it far worse. It's all in RNG. I've only had one atma received in less than two hours of FATE grinding. Most the seven I've aquired have taken 6-12 hours each (collective time, as I do take breaks to do other stuff). It's damn frustrating especially when those that are done with all 12 in 10 hours or less say "it's fine, calm down".

[Xetter]

This kind of post is what riles others up. You've gotten 4 in six hours which is pretty good. Many others, like myself, spent twelve hours just getting a single atma. Other have even had it far worse. It's all in RNG. I've only had one atma received in less than two hours of FATE grinding. Most the seven I've aquired have taken 6-12 hours each (collective time, as I do take breaks to do other stuff). It's damn frustrating especially when those that are done with all 12 in 10 hours or less say "it's fine, calm down".

There are instances in many other games and mmo's where i have gone days, weeks and even years before getting something i wanted so maybe the rng doesn't bother me as much. Nor am I saying that it's not as annoying as hell as I have been there. If this was the only thing on the game to do or you couldn't do anything else whilst doing it i'd be furious.

There are a few things they should have done, like allowing alts to get xp or if you chose to do on a 50 job you maybe get enhanced odds. All in all i know people that got 12/12 in 11~24 hours and I know a few (not including people on here) that were in a zone for 37 hours to get one atma.

I know this game isn't other games but it's just one mechanic in hundreds and if i have to deal with the occasional quest/mission that is a right pain in the ass due to poor luck it won't change the fact there are many other great aspects.

Like I said i'm trying to learn Ex primals so I don't have to hope fully on atmas. I DF whilst I grind. Best of both worlds for me.

[SendohJin]

I know this game isn't other games but it's just one mechanic in hundreds and if i have to deal with the occasional quest/mission that is a right pain in the ass due to poor luck it won't change the fact there are many other great aspects.

but it's not hundreds, this game doesn't have enough content for it to be hundreds.

realistically it's one of three, because there are only 3 paths to i100 weapons.

or you can also say it's one of two because it's the only progression thing you can do that doesn't require 7 other skilled players (the other being farming myth and soldiery).

[EvilHippie]

waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And no the content is not hard, its long, painfully boring, mindless, and makes you want to kill yourself. BUT! when you do get that atma drop, How good does it feel? Seriously, They won't Change it, nor should they. So as i said before, Stop whinging about it. Some people are just more lucky than others.

[zaviermhigo]

In the week that atma grind has been out, it took me exactly 7 days to get 12/12. I started first day it was out, did some grinding got 2, next day 1, and so on, culminating in the night before last where i got 4 atma. I do agree RNG sucks, but it is possible to get them it just takes some work. Most people would have the work, and not the rng its that's simple. I also grinded up my boyfriend to 9/12 (I have more time than he does), so on two characters...I haven't see any of the 3 days now, and no atma to show for it, but with the way rng is, I can see that it happens to some.

If you've legit tried atma grinding, and you aren't getting atma's I feel for you, but I see too many complaining, who haven't even tried, those are "gimme gimme, I want now" people.

BTW , I never teamed up for either atma either (except one atma, upper la noscea's , to try it out, and that was the LONGEST an atma ever took me), I see it as a waste of time, and just a bunch of people clogging up the zone with their party. It does not require a party, and I think its better if you don't have one, I think they just hold you back.

[Shikyo]

The problem is the people that have been at it for 30+ hours without getting a single drop. I would not expect the people that have gotten them to drop would have a problem of course.