Results 1 to 10 of 74

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Seobit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    246
    Character
    Luna Clear
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Everdark View Post
    A good dps can manage their threat and doesn't stand in things.

    they also don't pull before the tank.
    Dps don't give jack shit about threat. A dps pulling threat from a tank is almost always because of a bad tank, except for a few very specific situations.
    (0)

  2. #2
    Player
    EasymodeX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    900
    Character
    Lunairetic Emx
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Seobit View Post
    Dps don't give jack shit about threat. A dps pulling threat from a tank is almost always because of a bad tank, except for a few very specific situations.
    That's when you pop defensive cooldowns and pull threat anyways, keke ^_^.
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player PArcher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    2,580
    Character
    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seobit View Post
    Dps don't give jack shit about threat. A dps pulling threat from a tank is almost always because of a bad tank, except for a few very specific situations.
    This is true from what I see.

    After the threat buffs in 2.1, it became really hard for me to pull aggro off tanks unless they were heavily undergeared or just bad.

    As a DRG, the only time I could (normally) potentially take aggro is during my first burst phase, if the tank just isn't generating enough aggro by the time I Life Surge Full Thrust (which, again, normally only happens with an undergeared tank).
    However, I've been pulling Tail aggro on Levi EX with some tanks who just Fast Blade - Savage Blade (which is, honestly, a good idea, since Rage of Halone is used to instantly grab an add) it before going to pick up adds; I'm just doing Heavy Thrust - Impulse Drive - Disembowel - Chaos Thrust (if I use Phlembotomize, I steal aggro every time unless Rage is used), then Dragonfire Dive to the adds, and have a chance to take aggro (crits are fun). If Circle of Scorn is used, I don't steal aggro, but some tanks won't do that, and I spend the add phase getting pelted with Scales and healers getting angry at me. Now, I haven't pulled Tail aggro from a WAR yet, but I've mostly just done Levi EX with a PLD OT, so I need to run with more WAR OTs to be able to say if its just i90 weapon PLD I'm stealing aggro from, or any i90 weapon tank; its also a possibility that an i95 weapon PLD would be able to hold aggro, but haven't played with one yet.

    I also occasionally pull aggro off Knights in T4, but I don't really care about that since when I normally do its pretty much dead and I just don't care; same for most trash mobs, really. But they're trash mobs...



    As a side-note: I've never understood the mentality that tank swapping causes DPS to take hate more often; Tanks just use provoke to get back to #1, and you just go all-out when you're #1, only holding back when you're #2. Since #1 is always generating aggro like normal, there shouldn't be any aggro "leaks" like people seem to think happens. And yes, I've done plenty of tank-swapping and know how to do it properly (and hate being paired with a tank with an i80 weapon, I have to hold back so much as a WAR just spamming Path and Eye as #2...) The only spot I can think of where there can be problems is on the Firestar node in T2, since its the first node with Slashing Resistance, and sometimes ADS if someone goes all-out a little too fast.
    (0)