It's official Parsers are illegal in FFXIV

[Tashigi]

To me a parser breeds toxic elitism.

You don't need a parser for that.
All you need is people.

[bokchoykn]

It isn't. Parsers don't discriminate between casuals and hardcore and there's people without parsers that can out do people with em.

Mastery of this game doesn't depend on those factors. You don't need rocket science to be able to read.

It's not as simple as reading. Parsers compile, organize, and summarize data in ways that the human eye cannot.

And yes, some players without parsers can outperform players with parsers. It's simply a tool to help your improvement. Actual improvement comes from the player.

If you can't see the value in parsers after all that I've said, I don't know what else to tell you.

[ItzKris]

You don't need a parser for that.
All you need is people.

Parsers sure do make it easier though.

[ForteXX]

It's not okay to kick anyone from a group unless they're afk, harassing people, or ask to be kicked. Anything else is viewed as harassment.

Actually, asking to be kicked can also get you in trouble. It's seen by GM's as getting around the system (topic a while ago had this)

[MurakumoMillennium]

People say they don't like parsers because somebody will kick them for their low dps. Fair enough, it's a legitimate concern to not want to be kicked due to poor performance.

But ask yourself this: If you're performing poorly, do you think you should be in the group to begin with? After all, bosses don't die from hugs and rainbows. Numbers kill bosses. Bigger numbers kill bosses faster and easier. There is a baseline for what people should be able to do for their given gear level, and if you're below that, should you not practice before trying to tackle content that requires you to meet the requirement? Most people won't kick for low dps unless the dps you're doing is low because of skill, not gear.

Here's an example: There are two i90 BLMs in a group. One does 300 dps, the other does 150. The boss however requires 500 to win. As such, the boss can't be killed because one person is literally doing half of their potential dps. Should they not be replaced? If they do get replaced, it's not because the evil parser voted them off the island. It's because they were the weakest link, and needed to be removed.

[bokchoykn]

Here's an example: There are two i90 BLMs in a group. One does 300 dps, the other does 150. The boss however requires 500 to win. As such, the boss can't be killed because one person is literally doing half of their potential dps. Should they not be replaced? If they do get replaced, it's not because the evil parser voted them off the island. It's because they were the weakest link, and needed to be removed.

Nope. Removing them would be elitist. Leaving the group because they can't beat the boss would also be elitist. Only if you're willing to wipe repeatedly for all of eternity can you become a non-elitist.

(jk obviously. I agree whole-heartedly)

[Tyrial]

Cool. I hope everyone that uses a parser is Parma banned

If people are going to get assaulted by cheese I see that as a reason to go hog wild with then...

[Gormogon]

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I know the value of parsers but the only thing you keep bringing up is the reason why you are so reliant on it. 2 wipes doesn't justify going bananas yet people do it anyway.

[Raenryong]

If the people worried about being kicked for low DPS (or getting kicked for low DPS) spent half of the time they spend bitching about it on improving their performance, they would have absolutely nothing to complain about.

[Magnesium02]

That program directly modifies the client (being able to move camera more), so its actually less of a legal thing to use than a parser

Glad I just ignored that then.