Cross Realm Queue Moggle and Leviathan

[Spoekes]

Other groups of people use PF for learning, and Duty Finder for winning. Which is actually a more logical method, although you should be able to do both in either.

For reasons of anonymity, and while you may get ppl with the absolute minimul iLvL allowed for the duty in DF, your more logical method issuing PF to learn rather than DF does no more seem so logical :-P

[ispano]

For reasons of anonymity, and while you may get ppl with the absolute minimul iLvL allowed for the duty in DF, your more logical method issuing PF to learn rather than DF does no more seem so logical :-P

But it is. You learn in PF because you can leave and reform without penalty. Because you can CHOOSE to make a party just for practice. Yes, Japanese players do it this way. PF for Practice, DF for winning.

I agree, it would be fine to see more practice groups in PF.
Being expected to have exp to join the DF (if the generalised custom is to practice *only* in PF) seems too exigent, on the other hand.

The worst part is people quitting at the first or second wipe, knowing it is a practice group, or even in DF. Leaving and queueing again to leave at the second wipe, rinse and repeat, until you have the luck to fall in a group that wins before the second wipe, has no sense in my opinion.

Oh I don't expect them to have experience, but limiting yourself to DF to practice is... stupid? People want to get into DF and win as well, I mean that's sort of why it exists. But this mentality of DF is only for practice hurts everyone.