Is this your first Final Fantasy? Or do you just not remember grinding in past games?

[LordSliver]

Well I don't think they intentional interlinked the two systems as some think.
You can buy venture credits with seals and you can get seals by doing guildhest and leves.

Yes but guildhiest are only good for first time reward than its debatable after that lol, I don't really do leves unless I wanna level something up

[Roris]

I don't think anyone's complained about the new crafting or gathering grinds, wanna know why? Because those at least take slightly more effort, at least more than pressing 1 over and over. You need to HQ your AFs then materia them or get food and then craft or go gather the items or do something else than just spam a single button over and over, and yes you can also kinda sorta buy your way into some of the steps if you wish, feel free to use "oh so you're entitled and whining because you can't buy your way into a thing you want to have right now huh huh huh" to validate badly designed quests. However if you choose to do everything yourself you're guaranteed to have some valid and quantitative progress in every single step of the way, the same can't be said about RNG Atmas at all.

[Gormogon]

So much hate for the new elements that take more than a day to accomplish..

Yet that's far from the point. Fun things are fun and things that are not fun are not fun.

I'll say this though I've had fun farming some content in previous FF's because the experience was worth it. Yet as far as farming for gear that's only gonna have temporary value regardless of where you get it from. That's a chore and not fun.

[Lexia]

If you are unlucky no one says you have to set there and grind trying to get atma for 26 hours that is your choice, if you get tired of it go do something else (2.2 added more then just atma farming) and then come back to it later. You know mix up your gameplay.

[Delsus]

Hundreds of hours playing Blitzball in FFX to unlock Wakka's Ultimate, as well as grinding the Omega ruins for hours to level up.

lol really hundreds of hours for World champion, you just need to come third in a tournament to get the World champion, then 2 leagues and 2 tournaments to fully upgrade it. it's probably the weapon that required the least grinding to get. Caladbolg is the bane if my FFX life, 0:0.3 NOOOOOOO.

[Desidious]

You guys/gals complaining about "the grind" are silly. I guess still loving the old RPG games makes me kinda numb with grinding. Where's your sense of accomplishment? That's not a good feeling if it's handed to you in a day or so.

Try fishing in this game. Hunt the sawfish or find one of these new legendary big fish then talk to me about grinding and how it sucks. I have a goal and I won't let a little thing like time beat me.

[silentwindfr]

that the point that funny, the people saying: they complain against the grind. but that the point you don't understand... people don't complain against the grind. but against "RNG" grind into FATE! that a lot different. other point pretty amusing most of the people defending the system are old player of FF11... but that don't that change the fact that most of the community are pointing that the Atma part of the grind is dumb. is not fun, is not fair... is simply an articial wall added for please the little nostlagic player of FF11 that want to grind and spend day... because thing are not good if it don't take them weeks and month for get it.

i will be rude (and sorry for that) if you have loved FF11 soo much... why are you here? FF11 is still online!! but i know why, because they did change the game and it look more and more like what we have here. and never you have think... but maybe they will never redo what we have loved when we was kids and had countless hour of time that we was able to spend into a game!

more important and i want that you read it: WE DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GRIND BUT ABOUT THE RNG IN FATE

ps: then don't come here talk of game of another era or not even an mmorpg for make your point! the mmorpg have evolve if you can't accept it!! quit it!

[Doo]

I don't mind grinds. I just don't like Fate grinding because they are low level tutorial reuse content.

[Jinko]

If you are unlucky no one says you have to set there and grind trying to get atma for 26 hours that is your choice, if you get tired of it go do something else (2.2 added more then just atma farming) and then come back to it later. You know mix up your gameplay.

TBH many of us have done most of the content by now outside of Coil2 and Levi EX.

I would like to point out that many of us aren't against the grind more the RNG and the very low drop rates, and yes you can go away and try another day/time but shouldn't' we want to play this game/content, not be driven crazy by tedious activities ?

I personally hate FATE I think they are one of the worst things in this game, I will persevere with the grind but it is already making me hate this game.

[Tupsi]

ps: then don't come here talk of game of another era or not even an mmorpg for make your point! the mmorpg have evolve if you can't accept it!! quit it!

Yet you tend to attack FFXI and people who played it...lol. Like the last topic, you brought up XI to make a "point" that was so unrelated it was just to attack people.