Thank you for the new relic quest

[Cid_Grim]

You do know you will need about 1 month to actually obtain the real ilvl 100 Relic right?

As I said before by average a person will need 3 to 4 days to complete 1 book with 9 books total. It is impossible to obtain the Ilvl 100 Relic within a Week because obtaining Atma is not obtaining the ilvl 100 Relic itself but a reskin version of the ilvl 90 relic and the ability to perform the actual Relic Quests to obtaining the actual Ilvl 100 Relic Animus being all 9 books for Animus.

Yes, and i am absolutely fine with that. I am sorry you are disappointed with the hoops we have to jump through to acquire the weapon, but you could choose to not do it at all. (We both know you are going to complete it either way.)

[EdwinLi]

Yes, and i am absolutely fine with that. I am sorry you are disappointed with the hoops we have to jump through to acquire the weapon, but you could choose to not do it at all. (We both know you are going to complete it either way.)

That won't happen until i find the right class/Job worth putting into since there is no class/job currently that interests me.

This relic upgrade chain is not made simply for players to have a long term goal but to serve as a goal for players who have a Main class/job. As of now the design of this Book Quests is expecting players to only focus on giving their Main Job their Animus.

Without a Main class/job that interests me there really no purpose to waste away time and effort and 13,500 myth tomes now.

However, that was not my point being that the real purpose of this whole RNG thing is not to provide a challenge for players at all nor a throw back to the old days when RNG determines if you are the have or have nots but to prevent too many players from starting the actual ilvl 100 Relic Quests.

Yet we all know how this will end anyways being that the RNG we have now will start to be gradually removed over time and eventually Atma and Animus will become easier to obtain anyways while a new set of Upgrades are released with the current rate of Atma and Animus Quests.

[OPneedNerfs]

I can already predict the qq a few weeks from now:

Newer players shouldnt be allowed to get their animus that easily. We had to grind through weeks, why did se remove the rng and make the grind easier? QQ.

[Nekodar]

I can already predict the qq a few weeks from now:

Newer players shouldnt be allowed to get their animus that easily. We had to grind through weeks, why did se remove the rng and make the grind easier? QQ.

It was quite despairing to see it take hours for some of the atmas to drop... And seeing others join the party and leave within a few fates because they got it...
Waiting for Giant Seps fate to spawn afterwards (part of Book of Skyfire I) was almost as despairing...

Also hearing people have problems getting enough people to help with some of the fates from other books...

[Cid_Grim]

If you sit back and think about it, the reason they did this is very simple.

Just like the duty roulette was designed to give some inventive to higher lvl players to help low lvl players complete their duty or dungeon, this gives higher lvl players inventive to help low lvl players complete their fates.

I chose not to use duty roulette, because I would rather pick the instances I would like to play, but there are plenty of people who choose to use the duty roulette system.

We all have options.

[Seif]

I don't understand people who think "to work for" is "to have luck"

This. I don't mind the grind but grind where you have no end in sight is a painful design choice.

[Delnoir]

I'll say it. I did it and the first half was painful at times. Did it take a long time? Yes. Did I almost go insane? Yes, but so would you after spending 7 hours hours in Outer La Noscea one day then eleven straight hours in Western La Noscea the next.

But now as much a pain in the ass as it was I get tangible progression now. Now when people are losing their minds because they can't get a mirror to even drop I'll be able to sit there and think to myself "I'm glad I did the relic right away."

Yeah, the FATE part was crap, but now it's smooth, if long sailing. Farm myth and do a glorified hunting log. Stuff you do in this game on a regular basis anyway. It's all on me now, working under my own power. I paid my dues to the RNG gods. How much you want to bet most people will be fighting the RNG gods a lot longer in Leviathan Extreme for their mirror?

I say the relic was the easy way out for most and that the rest of the player base just doesn't realize it yet.

[EdwinLi]

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Actually the Design for Relic now is the Starter Endgame Weapon. So Relic is the weapon for people to get first before they start getting the new shiny endgame Content Weapons of Power.

As of now the RNG and High Tome cost are just gates to prevent enough players from entering their Animus stage and Coil 2 higher turns until the next Upgrade appear in FF14 which will either be in 2.3 or 2.4

by 2.3 we will either see the drop rate increase up from the 10% drop rate now into 50% drop rate or the RNG is completely removed so people can start working on Animus while People with Animus can start dealing with the new RNG on ilvl 110 Relic Quest

By 2.4 the RNG will most likely be removed by then since Coil 3 will be out and the next set of Relic weapons for Coil 3 will be released which is most likely the ilvl 120 version with the RNG being moved to ilvl 120 quest or a new type of quests is invinted for ilvl 120 Relic.

Yoshi-P did state each Patch will add a new Upgrade for Relic so expect ilvl 110 Relic on 2.3 and Ilvl 120 on 2.4 with each buffing the chance for Atma or removing the RNG entirely to be moved to the new Relic quest so people don't fall too behind but either way the RNG for ATMA is going to be removed either way over time and then moved to the ivl 110 relic quest and then the ilvl 120 Relic Quest with the Book cost being lower in 2.4 because of a new Tome Tier switching myth for Soldiery being that the 1500 myth tomes will most likely become 325 Soldiery tomes in 2.4. In the end the current set up is designed to slow people down until the next set of relic is released and to provide people who already got their ilvl 90 gear set something to do and spend their Myth tomes on they have no more use for.

As of the ilvl 110 and ilvl 120 relics it will most likely be the same anyways with first part is farming for those souls while the 2nd part are those books. Only benefit the players who already obtained Animus by 2.3 and/or 2.4 time is that they are given a head start to start working on ilvl 110 and ilvl 120 but by then Atma drop rate would have been increased or completely removed.

[Doki]

The atma gathering only took me a little more than a day of off & on farming inbetween capping new tomes and other distractions. It offered a real reason to continue progress towards my 3k fate achievement as well. It also worked well for getting my chocobo companion the kill count it needed for the weekly challenge log bonus xp. I also spirt bound a full set of random pinks I had accumulated from treasure maps. I actually ran into a handful of FATEs that I had not encountered before, so that was nice as well.

The 1500 myth per book is a little bit daunting, but it does give me something to do everyday, even after capping out soldiery for the week. I've completed the 1st book, and the only real snag I ran into at all was the leve page. One of the leves was not a normal leve, but a GC leve so I ended up wasting time/allowances doing about 6 regular leves thinking the one I needed would appear. Then I googled it and figured out the issue.

Honestly the new relic quests are VERY similar to how magian trial weapon stuff worked in FFXI, so I'm already a little numb to silly requirements for minimal gains.

[NyneAlexander]

The atma gathering only took me a little more than a day of off & on farming inbetween capping new tomes and other distractions. It offered a real reason to continue progress towards my 3k fate achievement as well. It also worked well for getting my chocobo companion the kill count it needed for the weekly challenge log bonus xp. I also spirt bound a full set of random pinks I had accumulated from treasure maps. I actually ran into a handful of FATEs that I had not encountered before, so that was nice as well.

I'm going on 13+ hours in one zone for one atma. Please tell me what you sacrificed to enable the RNG gods to grant mercy. Was it a full lala?