SE - 2.2 is Going to Cost You Greatly

[Eekiki]

I'm not a fan of the FATE grinding for atmas, but I see why it was done this way. They thought Titan HM would be a good enough skill check, but all that happened is companies started selling titan carries. This encouraged RMTs and put way more zenith relics in the wild at a much faster pace than SE had anticipated. It sucks but the fastest way around it is to make it a time sink rather than a skill check. SE's on a tight schedule with getting this content stuff out there while also working on the first expansion. There isn't enough in game right now, so the focus is on speed I believe. If they were able to take some time to slow down their design process I bet they could do some great stuff. But I don't see this happening until after the first expansion goes live next year.

And it isn't *that* bad. Certainly nowhere near the ridiculousness that was relic weapons in pre-aby FFXI.

why is everyones avatar Yoshi-P, he's freaking out...

Popular speculation is it's an April Fools joke (it's April 1st in Japan).

[ApolloGenX]

SE's on a tight schedule with getting this content stuff out there while also working on the first expansion. There isn't enough in game right now, so the focus is on speed I believe. If they were able to take some time to slow down their design process I bet they could do some great stuff. But I don't see this happening until after the first expansion goes live next year.

And it isn't *that* bad. Certainly nowhere near the ridiculousness that was relic weapons in pre-aby FFXI.

So...speed is the excuse for poor design?

Also, what does XI have to do with anything? This isn't XI... you could compare to any game...and say it's not as "bad" as X... that is not a very good way to evaluate something... pick something that is worse and say "It could have been worse".

[Eekiki]

So...speed is the excuse for poor design?

*snipped out unnecessary and off-topic critique of how I presented my opinion*

No, speed isn't an excuse for poor design. There is no excuse for poor design. I don't consider this poor design. You may not enjoy it (I certainly don't enjoy it), but this design serves its purpose. Of course it could be done better, but they have time constraints right now. They needed a way to slow down gear progression, and this way is tried and true. And like everything else in this game it is not permanent. So you can either deal with it, or you can wait until they make it better (and they will make it better). And bear in mind that you have other options for i100 weapons.

[Kaze3434]

And bear in mind that you have other options for i100 weapons.

you have one other option that wont take 2 more weeks. the weathered option isnt doable for a good while.

[Arakatos]

Wanted to take the time and state that I agree with OP about the lack of response to the fate grind however I agree that it is a necessary evil to slow down progression.

Main points though is if you are sick of fate grinding. Stop do something else and come back to it when you feel like it. Ultimately this is a game, there is no rush to get everything right away. Why can't it be 1 attempt at an Atma a day say 1-2 hours and if you get any Atma great! if not tomorrow. The difference in how you approach this is what's causing the dissatisfaction. Although, this is where I agree that SE should find ways to address it with the numerous suggestions on the forums instead of stating nothing.

[Lamentations]

So...speed is the excuse for poor design?

Also, what does XI have to do with anything? This isn't XI... you could compare to any game...and say it's not as "bad" as X... that is not a very good way to evaluate something... pick something that is worse and say "It could have been worse".

1. Xi has a lot to do with xiv, considering a great deal of the hardcore FF fans in xiv had extensive sub histories with xi.

2. What you call poor design is simply SE trying to cater to both hardcore and casual players many of those also veterans of xi.

3. Players who devour content such as the pre 2.2 stuff in 2 weeks and then squeak about nothing to do here are as much or more to blame than any MMO grind mechanic, some people should pursue other interests outside gaming perhaps, like a girlfriend, boyfriend, maybe even a paycheck, they don't give away groceries where I live.

4. There will be "no" mass sub crash in xiv, those diehard FF fans will be here, and they will buy a 3rd retainer in many cases as well as fantasia too.

5. Forum topics such as these are the reason the 99% who do not post in general forums avoid doing so, and the exact reason they should get more involved.

6. I am one of the hardest video game critics you will ever find, if I am a "knight" of any color, it is black not white, some 30 years+ played in everything from pinball to xiv, people can wish xiv dead all they want, not going to happen.

7. People can say xiv is bad, it isn't that bad.