How This was over looked is beyond me

[Kresciel]

You've just listed two.
And from what I've researched, progression goes:
Wave/Allagan>Atma/Wheathered/Tidal>Crafted/High Allagan.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you go Levi>HM Levi>High Allagan instead?

Only Extreme Leviathan drops weapon, and it's i95 (upgradeable to i100 with a rare drop from the same instance itself). HM Levi drops nothing except craft mats.

[Gramul]

Only Extreme Leviathan drops weapon, and it's i95 (upgradeable to i100 with a rare drop from the same instance itself). HM Levi drops nothing except craft mats.

Thanks for the correction.

Even so, is it still a feasible alternative? And what of the weathered gear? From the looks of it, that one is obtained through the normal means of trading in tomestones from runs.

[Kaze3434]

You've just listed two.
And from what I've researched, progression goes:
Wave/Allagan>Atma/Wheathered/Tidal>Crafted/High Allagan.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you go Levi>HM Levi>High Allagan instead?

yes, you can. its the getting the gear needed to even be close to able to get high allagan that stops people.

[Kaze3434]

Thanks for the correction.

Even so, is it still a feasible alternative? And what of the weathered gear? From the looks of it, that one is obtained through the normal means of trading in tomestones from runs.

the armor and such yes. the weapon isnt.

[Gramul]

yes, you can. its the getting the gear needed to even be close to able to get high allagan that stops people.

Then what's the point in complaining about the Atma grind? The High Allagan is after all of that.

the armor and such yes. the weapon isn't.

Looking it up, the Weathered Rosenbogen is obtained through 10 Rowena's Tokens (1300 Tomestones of Soldiery) and 1 Unidentified Allagan Tomestone which can be obtained from coil turn 7. Is it not possible to enter turn 7 with only i95 weapons, or is it a matter of drop rate?

Oh no. It's April 1st in Japan.
Now all my arguments will be with myself.

[Kelvani]

Just curious.. does anyone think the RNG is improved by being solo or being in a group for ATMA drops? I got one almost immediately in a group, haven't got once since in group or solo =p

[SirSaber]

Please look forward to it.

[Dnalor35]

The only one I have gotten was from running the FATEs solo while waiting for the DF as a DPS.

[KyroeFelix]

Just curious.. does anyone think the RNG is improved by being solo or being in a group for ATMA drops? I got one almost immediately in a group, haven't got once since in group or solo =p

RNG doesn't care if you're in a party or not. You can get atma solo or with friends; the despair rate remains the same.

[Kaze3434]

Looking it up, the Weathered Rosenbogen is obtained through 10 Rowena's Tokens (1300 Tomestones of Soldiery) and 1 Unidentified Allagan Tomestone which can be obtained from coil turn 7. Is it not possible to enter turn 7 with only i95 weapons, or is it a matter of drop rate?

the cost was known day one about the tokens. thats 3 weeks before anyone can get it. some want an ilvl100 with hard work and effort. levi ex mirror drop is rng, but because you are for sure getting something out of it(wep drops and tomes) it doesnt feel bad when it doesnt drop. you go 20+ hours with no atma in sight, its going to feel horrible. and you have almost nothing to show for it except seals.