Thank you for the new relic quest

[Otoha]

I dont remember exactly which interview it was, but I remember Yoshi saying he appreciates constructive criticism, but wished there would also be more on what people actually liked about the game.

Well, 2.2 has finally delivered something interesting with actual goals to work toward, in the form of the new relic quest. I love that this quest brought variety, specifically, it gave a big reason for lots of players to go out into open world areas, gave lots of players the rare drop design they wanted, and gave something important to do along with endgame dungeons, which the game lacked pre 2.2.

This single addition in 2.2 made me resub, and now gave me new hope for the game that I had previously lost. Idk whether the devs listened to the requests for some of the above I mentioned; but either way I appreciate what they brought us in this patch. Keep up the good work!

[EdwinLi]

Don't get your hope up so fast.

The RNG now is only low because it is new content and will most likely be buffed to have a higher chance to drop each Major Update with it eventually dropping at a 100% Rate later.

However, that is only the first step to get your relic into ilvl 100 Relic.

Once you're in Atma your Relic's stats is still ilvl 90 Stats and will not be ilvl 100 stats until Animus. This is where the real work to upgrade your Relic begins being that each Book have 4 catagories to complete being in battle leves, FATES, Dungeon, and Monster kills. You will also need to pay 1500 myth per book which is a total of 13,500 myth for all 9 books.

Of course once the next tome tier is released it will be easier to get those books.

(Example: Radz-at-han Oil use to cost 900 phil tome but now only cost 225 Myth tome since Phil is now replaced by Myth)

[Otoha]

Yea, some of that is probably true. Either way though, this patch was a big step in the right direction, for me that is.

[EdwinLi]

Yea, some of that is probably true. Either way though, this patch was a big step in the right direction, for me that is.

Well the RNG system as the first part of the upgrade process still feels out of place for me. I still think they could have done something a bit more interesting with those Atma souls like fighting special solo instanced bossed unique to the Relic Upgrade side-story that would cover more lore and detail about our relics.

or at least skipped it all together since we don't actually begin the upgrade process our relics until we get it to Atma and start working on those books which will take weeks to get them all done through the solo and group content each book will require us to do.

As of now the RNG isn't anything special or a throw back to when things are determined by RNG if you can get the best weapon or not but just to hold as many people back until the next set of Relic is released.

Relic in this game is not the best weapons after all but the Starter Endgame weapons to allow people to get into Endgame and get the real Strongest Weapons in the game.

[Nekodar]

(Example: Radz-at-han Oil use to cost 900 phil tome but now only cost 225 Myth tome since Phil is now replaced by Myth)

Considering that the philo:myth trading ratio ended up at 4:1, the oil costs the same today as it did before 2.2. Just using a different currency.
Might be easier to come by the myths now, but the price is the same...

[Rakashu]

I agree completely; for a while I was only logging on during the weekends with maybe like a few hours put in each day. When 2.2 was launched I did literally nothing but play trying to collect all my atmas. I've only gotten 10 so far, and I'm actually looking forward to coming back and playing during the weekdays to try and get the other 2, and than work towards the rest of the upgrade.

I don't understand how people can be complaining over it, literally whining that they haven't instantly gotten the new gear, as opposed to having to put a little work into it. Completing it, one by one, gives me a feeling of accomplishment, something which has sorely been missing from the game for a while now.

[EdwinLi]

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It the part that the first part of Upgrading relic isn't about actual work but about luck. Collecting the 12 souls is simple a measure of being Fortunate enough to have them actually drop for you and even once you get Atma your relic has not been upgraded yet since the stats of Atma is still ilvl 90 stats. Yes once you get Atma your Relic is still a ilvl 90 relic. It may say ilvl 100 but the stats still remains ilvl 90 Relic until you complete the Animus books and complete all 9 book to get it into ilvl 100 stats.

The real work begins once you get Atma (ilvl 90 stats) and start getting Animus (ilvl 100 stats) with the 9 books.

I still think they should of just skipped the Atma part in the first place because the relic is not ilvl 100 once you get Atma but ilvl 90 and only gradually become ilvl 100 for each book you complete with each book cost 1500 myth (13,500 myth for all books) and each book having tasks cover FATES, Dungeons, Monster kills, and Battle Leves.

The process of actually upgrading the relic from ilvl 90 into ilvl 100 (Atma into Animus) is a worth total of 3 to 4 days per book by average ( 2 days to gather 1500 myth and 1 or 2 days to complete 1 book tasks) which is between a total of 27 days to 36 days to actually obtain the ilvl 100 Relic once you get Atma.

This is mostly where I see the flaw being that getting Atma is not the actual process to obtain ilvl 100 Relic but to obtain a Re-skin version of the ilvl 90 relic so you start working on getting the real ilvl 100 weapon being Animus. This setup they have now isn't about rewarding people who can spend time to farm something over and over again, since the RNG only favors those fortunate enough to get their item not by skill but by luck with how a few people already obtained their Atma on day one of 2.2 release, but is simple a Gate designed to slow people down from performing the actual task to obtain the ilvl 100 relic which will take weeks to complete because SE needs a gate to prevent too many players from starting their Relic ilvl 100 Quest this early in the game.

Of course this RNG will gradually be lefted over time and will most likely be completely removed and placed on to the next set of Relic upgrades are released.

[Bellybell]

I don't understand people who think "to work for" is "to have luck"

[Cid_Grim]

They want to have it right now, and the only way to do that is increase drop rates. Then we go back to having a one day per week game. (For some people)

Then again, there are a lot of other things to do. Even when I couldn't progress in gear, I still enjoyed playing.

[EdwinLi]

They want to have it right now, and the only way to do that is increase drop rates. Then we go back to having a one day per week game. (For some people)

Then again, there are a lot of other things to do. Even when I couldn't progress in gear, I still enjoyed playing.

You do know you will need about 1 month to actually obtain the real ilvl 100 Relic right?

As I said before by average a person will need 3 to 4 days to complete 1 book with 9 books total. It is impossible to obtain the Ilvl 100 Relic within a Week because obtaining Atma is not obtaining the ilvl 100 Relic itself but a reskin version of the ilvl 90 relic and the ability to perform the actual Relic Quests to obtaining the actual Ilvl 100 Relic Animus being all 9 books for Animus.