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    Basso's Avatar
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    Fay Hawke
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    Zodiark
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    If you look at it in any other way that an in between state you are looking at the item incorrectly. Its not supposed to be an end all weapon. It most likely never will be an end all weapon. Its completely optional.
    i doesnt need to be that good, but if we look back, zenit ilevle 90, best weaon ilevel 95, this time its 100 and 115, in my opnion all the work for the atma weapon deserves a little stat upgrade, the itemlevel somewhat says its a stronger weapon but in reality its exactly the same.
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    XanderOlivieri's Avatar
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    Xander Olivieri
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Basso View Post
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    Item level doesn't mean its a stronger item. ilvl 90 Regular Crafted gear is not better than ilvl 90 Dungeon gear. High Quality Crafted gear is on level with Dungeon gear. But still regular crafted items are inferior with the same item level.

    Looking at i55 gear, doing 4 of them with different stats:



    Even with HQ standing, the Militia robe doesn't have as much Int as the Evoker's Doublet, but has better accuracy and increased Spell Speed. It even has two Materia slots to increase the missing stats. Depending on the Materia bonus cap, it can have more Int than the doublet.

    Still Item level doesn't mean they are the same or stronger. Transitional gear will have oddly placed stats because it can be altered as its being pushed into its next stage.

    If you look at it in any way other than its in transition to the next stage of weaponry, you are looking at it completely wrong. Animus isn't supposed to be better than the Solidarity gear or the High Allagan gear.

    The Weathered Solidarity items are also transitional gear. Once you finished with them, they increase in power.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Basso View Post
    i doesnt need to be that good, but if we look back, zenit ilevle 90, best weaon ilevel 95, this time its 100 and 115, in my opnion all the work for the atma weapon deserves a little stat upgrade, the itemlevel somewhat says its a stronger weapon but in reality its exactly the same.
    The problem is this time all the alternate weapons are very hard to get and to have the relic on par with even new tome weapons once upgraded just undermines the whole upgrade process. If you think about it this was a mistake relics made in 2.0, very early you could get a BiS weapon and totally disregard weapon progression thoughout the rest of the game. They corrected this slightly by buffing allagan weapons, and in this patch they have balanced it by making a mindless grind weapon a upgrade above 2.1 gear but in no way an invalidation of other gear options.
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