My two cents on the ATMA Issue

[Xevren]

Its funny, I remember in ffxii there was this enemy "Werewolf" that had a small chance of dropping Kotetsu (a katana; available in of of the beginning sections of Rabanastre). This guy was wayyy too tough for anyone early in the game, unless you pulled him to a corner and threw everything you had at him( and most of the time you would fail anyways). I personally did this over and over until I finally ( after many many days) got Kotetsu. The point I'm trying to make is that no ever complained about this stuff even eight years ago, and now everyone is asking to be given a free hand out. Low drop rates used to be a part of rpg's in general, so put on your big boy/girl pants and just deal. No one cares that you put (X) number of hours into a video game only to come up with squat. You're privileged enough to be able to play that game, so grow a pair. Cue violins and incessant whining.....

[Raestloz]

Its funny, I remember in ffxii...

I don't know, was FFXII a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG?

It wasn't? Okay, shut up. Now.

[Xevren]

I don't know, was FFXII a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG?

It wasn't? Okay, shut up. Now.

Is typing considered speaking? I must have slept through class on that one. Its kinda funny how you're going full-tilt psycho about a weapon skin. I know I'm laughing.

[Raestloz]

Is typing considered speaking? I must have slept through class on that one. Its kinda funny how you're going full-tilt psycho about a weapon skin. I know I'm laughing.

You are trying to compare a single-player RPG with an MMO. I do not know what kind of class you managed to take in your early days, but I advise you to look thorugh the records, see what the average point for that class is

[Xevren]

You are trying to compare a single-player RPG with an MMO. I do not know what kind of class you managed to take in your early days, but I advise you to look thorugh the records, see what the average point for that class is

I'm also comparing two final fantasy games with somewhat similar battle systems. The key words in that sentence being "final fantasy". I don't even know how to respond to the rest of what you wrote.... If you're not satisfied with the current relic quest then maybe just devote an hour a day in a certain zone, then rinse and repeat. There are so many posts about people who "don't have enough time" to do this quest, and in the same post they claim they have been at it for 10-20 hours straight. I'm sorry, but that is directly proportional to having enough time to do it. I know that it can be frustrating and that's why I used the example from ffxii. Low drop rates have been a part of rpg's since their inception, embrace the reality

[Blitzace]

Low drop rates have been a part of rpg's since their inception, embrace the reality

And once again, Low drop rates are not the problem here, the problem rest within the fact that the only way of obtaining this crap is by doing boring fates often Lv 5-20 fates. Spamminng 1-2-3, because lets face it, most fates wouldn't kill you at all. There is no challenge here, hell, Give me a hard dungeon that will woop my ass, IDC thats fun! its hard, i need to learn & adept! But this? Feels like a f'in casino game. Roll a 1000-sided dice and if you happen to roll 666 twice in a row you're the lucky winner of ONE atma.

And the time, Is also meh. i spent give or take 24 hours atm. 0 atmas, 24 hours doing boring fates is ALOT. 24 hours doing fun dungeons/battles, i don't see the problem

[Xevren]

And the time, Is also meh. i spent give or take 24 hours atm. 0 atmas, 24 hours doing boring fates is ALOT. 24 hours doing fun dungeons/battles, i don't see the problem

I'm not arguing that that sux, it totally does. Some areas allow you to do 40+ lvl fates though, and you are getting gil and seals as well(plus fate based items which I got a ton of/ I also maxed out my seals). I guess I got incredibly lucky 12 times in a row, but it really doesn't feel that way. It still feels like I put in a lot of time. I guess its a "don't hate the player, hate the game situation" but it has only been four days since 2.2 dropped, and I haven't been through even half the content. I'm really digging it so far and my atma weapon is really just a small part of that. I'll be able to get my first upgrade for my shield today, but its still gonna take awhile.