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    many of you are saying this garbage about only those who do the hardest content should have the best gear. I don't agree, but I dont think it should be easy for those who don't want to do the hardest content to get it either. different paths toward things like that gear keep people subcribing. make longer more time consuming paths to that gear(atleast the gear you get from the Soldiery being upgraded).
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 03-30-2014 at 08:06 AM.

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    Well great in the picture The Oils of Time are used to Upgrade Weathered Accessories.... So that must mean Sands of Time also Drop from Coils.
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    In reference to this thread, Thank you devs for not catering to this casual crowd. Sincerely, the hardcore community
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    Asbel Alseif
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    Alternate pathway allow causal to gear up to current Ilvl. People complaining that those who do the hardest content should have the best gear...i dont agree with it. alternate gearing allow "hardcore" player to min/max your gear to BiS(Which isnt it your so call "best gear"). Why are people so opposed to causal just using myth/sols to get gear...just so you can have bragging right that you have the highest ilvl there is?

    Those people that say "if you dont like this game you should quit" people will leave when the time is right for them. TESO fan will leave FFXIV when TESO is release just like Wildstar fans will leave when Wildstar is release.
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    Last edited by Mcclebby; 03-30-2014 at 01:41 PM.

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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiras View Post
    In reference to this thread, Thank you devs for not catering to this casual crowd. Sincerely, the hardcore community
    RNG has nothing to do for being casual or hardcore. Just saying.

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    People don't seem to understand the 2x RNG nature of the UnID aside from the weekly lockout;
    - UnID is not a 100% drop atm (first RNG); But when it drops
    - You'll have to fight against 7 people for you to get it (second RNG).

    It's not about who's getting which item as well, but instead UnID should have atleast a 100% drop, if not for each party member, then atleast a 100% drop for clearing X turn instead.
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    IGN: Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiras View Post
    In reference to this thread, Thank you devs for not catering to this casual crowd. Sincerely, the hardcore community
    Sure feels nice eh when hardcore peeps playground atm is t6-9 but then again RNG will (always) screw ur drops and we can't show off our brand new shiny high allagan gears and walk around the cities expecting everyone else is looking and jelly eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Well great in the picture The Oils of Time are used to Upgrade Weathered Accessories.... So that must mean Sands of Time also Drop from Coils.
    Yes and they are probably fixed drops(maybe sand and oil are variable between each other), notice it's 4 drops not the usual 2, so the whole "it's bad because it's RNG" falls.
    I like it, a lot!
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    It's just a small step!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    many of you are saying this garbage about only those who do the hardest content should have the best gear. I don't agree, but I dont think it should be easy for those who don't want to do the hardest content to get it either. different paths toward things like that gear keep people subcribing. make longer more time consuming paths to that gear(atleast the gear you get from the Soldiery being upgraded).
    Even avoiding your 'everybody gets a trophy for playing' type of theory, yes, if you do not plan to raid the end-game content the gear was designed to to build for, why on Earth would you even need high-end gear? The idea here is that the gear is supposed to serve a purpose, not just be something you have. What are you going to do with it? Just stand around in it? Do lower level content with it? I mean, think about it. DoH and DoL have their own specific "best" gear. You can't get it by raiding or doing dungeons or anything else. You get it by doing what the gear's intended purpose is. For that matter, putting a roadblock to progression for those who do run the content the gear is designed for is a good thing. People who gear too quickly will get bored with the content and come to the forums to complain about how bored they are with the game. Not giving everything on a silver platter does one of two things: keeps people who have a desire to attain the reward playing, or makes those who don't have any use for it anyway find something that is useful to them.

    I did Coils for two months with my static before I or our other healer even saw a drop. We geared three tanks in the meantime. When I finally switched from WHM to PLD, I still wasn't BiS due to RNG. And ya know what? I didn't come to the forums bitching about it. And after I switched to PLD due to having unreliable tanks, I had nearly no Myth due to gearing my WHM and SCH, and guess what stopped dropping? Tank gear. So I was essentially with no way to get gear other than waiting on drops. Again, I didn't come here and whine about it, and I was running the content that high-end gear is designed for. See where I'm going here? The complaints I see in this thread are less than pointless. Progressive-minded raiders don't whine about RNG. They don't expect the reward to be easy to attain. They just keep at it and understand that the fun isn't always in getting the gear, it's in challenging themselves to do their best at the content. People focus too much on gear, even those who don't even raid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfarzoso View Post
    Problem is the way it is right now, as mentioned above in different ways or different manners. Casual players that wanted do EX primals could with at least being able to acquire Mythology armor. But now if you want to be high ilvl, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU FIGHT A LOOT SYSTEM ALL THE TIME YOU WILL ATTEMPT ENDGAME!!!
    Another perfect example of wanting to have gear that is not necessary for the content you are doing. EX primals had a minimum ilvl built into the DF system. If you could meet it, you could beat it, and it didn't require full 90 to do it. You didn't need high level gear. If you need to out gear a thing in order to do it, but don't have access to the highest level gear, you are expecting to go against the design of the content to start with. That doesn't mean the accessibility should change. It means your expectations (or your effort) should change.

    So much 'gimme' in this game...
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    Last edited by Araeya; 03-30-2014 at 04:35 PM.

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    Problem is the way it is right now, as mentioned above in different ways or different manners. Casual players that wanted do EX primals could with at least being able to acquire Mythology armor. But now if you want to be high ilvl, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU FIGHT A LOOT SYSTEM ALL THE TIME YOU WILL ATTEMPT ENDGAME!!!

    So if you don't win or skip a week due IRL you only getting behind and more behind to finally just chill with dumb looking weathered gear. Way to go SE, Could have made AF2 more accessible!
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