Monthly fee for 3rd retainer - your thoughts?

[Niwashi]

I'm against the whole concept of adding microtransaction sales for game features when we're already paying a subscription fee. Once we're paying for the game, we should be able to play the game, and that means the entire game, not bits and pieces. These sort of extra fees for individual items and features are something that belong in Free-to-Play games, not subscription ones. (And that's equally true regardless of whether they're advantages, conveniences, or purely cosmetic.)

The whole point of a subscription based game is that you pay a monthly (or quarterly, annual, whatever) fee and that covers everything, giving you access to the whole game. If the subscription isn't enough to cover that, then the sub costs need to be higher. We shouldn't ever have to choose which individual game features we're going to buy if we've already bought and subscribed to the game. Being able to avoid that sort of hassle is what the subscription costs are supposed to gain us over playing a microtransaction based F2P game.

[IsisLionheart]

Has anyone been able to actually purchase the extra retainers yet? I can't find it on the Mog Station.

[FJerome]

Has anyone been able to actually purchase the extra retainers yet? I can't find it on the Mog Station.

Despite being an optional service it's not actually under the optional service tab, the link for it is on the main subscription tab.

[Amiarah]

I´m very against microtransactions in a non f2p game. This will not stop at 2 more retainers. With no other means to be a crafter than to start your own FC for storage or get more retainers by irl money your kind of screwed. Having all crafts takes a lot of space. Most sub games I played had an ingame currency to increase the inventory up until a point where u could chose to pay a one time fee to have them more increased. But by then the storage was way more than u needed and never had to struggle with even crafting. This is just not a thing Ill pay for, just for the sake of it being wrong in my book.

[RioSwiftwood]

Look, you've done just fine so far without the extra retainers, right? Or have you been suffering this whole time? By limiting our retainer space a challenge exists where you choose item priority. Don't tell me you need every item in your inventory/retainer. Dont tell me the reason you are paying a subscription for this game is so that you can make virtual money. They dont make you pay for extra dungeons. You dont pay for housing. SE is just making money because players exploit certain aspects of the game, so they're going to exploit the exploiters. These retainers are not a necessity. If gil is what you're really after, and you can't get enough gil through two retainers, then either buy it from those spammed websites or pay $2-4 for your precious extra retainers because the market is not the central theme of the game. Don't forget why you started playing this game in the first place: the adventuring, the social connections, the beauty of being able to escape to this virtual world.

[Skander]

Honestly, maybe I'm naive or under informed, but I don't really understand why everyone is so up in arms (or even surprised) about this. This is nothing new for the franchise. We paid additional sub fee for extra characters, thus more inventory, in the past. Now it's been scaled down to just additional retainers. In and of itself, not too big a deal, IMO. I do not foresee anything game breaking about this optional 'advantage' other than a huge additional timesink.

[Skander]

Even if ventures, limited to your ability to farm chips, were to introduce a way to acquire rare/exclusive/highly sought after mats/items (again, not something I see them implementing aside from minions or other item of limited import or long term value) then you're still going to have to invest a copious amount of time into acquiring the chips (potentially on multiple characters), leveling your retainers, waiting on venture timers, and sorting your spoils. If this is what you're into, by all means, play THAT game at a higher level than me. For your $2/4 a month, if it makes you happy, go for it.

[Skander]

This all being said, and run on sentences aside, I won't be paying for additional retainers. I don't particularly agree with it, but more importantly, I have no use for them. I have plenty of additional space on my current main, and I have 7 alt slots should my inventory wane.

Sorry for multiple posts: smart phone posting and I can't find the edit button. ^^;

[Niwashi]

We paid additional sub fee for extra characters, thus more inventory, in the past. Now it's been scaled down to just additional retainers.

It hasn't been scaled down. This is on top of those fees, not in place of them. We're still paying extra for extra characters (standard subscription for 8 characters per server vs. cheaper basic subscription for 1 character per server). Except the 8 characters that we're paying them for already aren't allowed to pass items between them. And so now we're being asked to pay a third monthly fee because neither our payment for a subscription, nor our larger payment for the better grade of subscription allows us to store the items we need for crafting, let alone any extras like the extra gear anyone who's really making use of the cosmetic system will accumulate.

(Personally, I'd rather be able to share the crafting between my characters, but they cannot pass around either the intermediate materials one craft makes for another, nor pass crafted items to the character who needs it, so the only way to have crafted items available to multiple characters is to have each of them independently pursue every DoH and DoL class.)

[ImDingDing]

thoughts? we should get it for free as new patchs add so many new stuff, we will need more retainers for sure in furture patch. this should not be a reason for them to charge us more.