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  1. #11
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    OSUBuckeye4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Also FYI: Where's the gun to your head that states you need to buy?
    I never said anyone needed to buy anything. No one needs to purchase a subscription in the first place, plenty of other games to play if they want. Or, they could just go outside and do things out there for free.


    I just look at it this way... if SE released i150 gear and charged $1 a piece for it, would you buy it? You wouldn't NEED too, but, if you wanted to play the game at the highest level it would be a requirement.

    What if they released additional maps/areas/dungeons and charged a couple bucks a piece for them, and they dropped the top gear in the game?

    I mean, no one is forcing you to buy it, but, if you want to play the game at the highest level you need to purchase these additional features.



    Same deal with extra retainers. If you want to make the most gil possible then you need to purchase a third retainer. Third retainer means 20 more market board slots, it means more inventory slots, it means more item acquisition through ventures.

    No one argued that SE was forcing customers to buy the retaininer. My point is that if you want to play the game at the highest level possible, you do need to purcahse this retainer. Sure, people can choose not to play the game at that level, but, now they are at a disadvantage because they didn't want to pay more cash to SE every month. I think that's bogus and it sends a very bad message to the community.


    (patiently waiting for the, "if you don't like it then... GET OUT!" post from a white knight who doesn't bother to actually try to understand what I'm saying)
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    Last edited by OSUBuckeye4; 03-27-2014 at 12:08 AM.

  2. #12
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    PLEASE SE HEED THE ADVICE OF THE GREAT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE OSUBuckeye4! HE KNOWS ALL!

    Lol I love doom sayers.
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    "I can't afford it, therefore it is bad."

    Paying for extra retainers has been a concept for close to 3 years now with the game.
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  4. #14
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    OSUBuckeye4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadrojj View Post
    PLEASE SE HEED THE ADVICE OF THE GREAT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE OSUBuckeye4! HE KNOWS ALL!

    Lol I love doom sayers.
    Love you too. Smoochies.


    Quote Originally Posted by Issachar View Post
    "I can't afford it, therefore it is bad."

    Paying for extra retainers has been a concept for close to 3 years now with the game.

    Thanks for not bothering to read anything and firing off a post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSUBuckeye4 View Post
    (patiently waiting for the, "if you don't like it then... GET OUT!" post from a white knight who doesn't bother to actually try to understand what I'm saying)
    Oh my, by all means, allow me!

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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSUBuckeye4 View Post
    snip.
    All your examples are game breaking pretty much. Yoshi Said long as it isn't going to break the games balance then it would be fine.

    So if they want to add Minions, Mounts, Gear for Glamour, Hair Styles, Phantasia Potions, Namingway Cards or anything that doesn't give a player an advantage then let it be. And Retainers really aren't an extra advantage (You can sell more stuff Big Whoop). Make 7 more characters on your server and guess what? That's 14 free Retainers make a Free Company with one of them, Get a friend to make an ALT to help you invite your ALTs, Use the FC Chest to trade stuff. Yeah if you have a FC you kinda can't trade your stuff to ALTs without someones help..... Still people paying for extra retainers isn't game breaking. Retainers getting 7items/hr isn't game breaking either I could farm 20-30xs that in an hour.


    I think all in all people are just upset that they can't have 20 more free slots to sell items. Most people are just going to undercut anyways.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 03-27-2014 at 12:39 AM.

  7. #17
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSUBuckeye4 View Post
    What if they released additional maps/areas/dungeons and charged a couple bucks a piece for them, and they dropped the top gear in the game?
    Every other MMO does this... *Cough*Expansion packs*Cough*. You don't need to buy them, but if you want to play all the content and get all the top gear, you need to buy them. SE even did this with XI, remember Chains of Promathia? This is widely practiced, accepted and successful. Feel lucky that up until now all of the content updates and expansions we've already gotten have been free.
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    I think the extra retainer thing is the fear of what SE may do in the future with the game because of extra retainers being successful. Look at FF13-2 and Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13, you can purchase costumes/outfits for your main characters in the game. FF13-2 it means just looks but for Lightning Returns it means DLC classes for the game. So in away SE has already shown that they want to nickel and dime the player-base with just their recent singleplayer games. They could easily bring the concept to FF14 and with MMOs that usually ends up turning the game into P2W.
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  9. #19
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    Stuke Clarke
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Additional retainers put a strain on server resources too. That is a lot of additional space if every character did it. The cost is to balance out those who actually NEED IT vs those who don't but will get one anyways just because.
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    Meh, it's just something that will go away.
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