1,000 reasons why Archer/Bard needs a non healer limit

[Roth_Trailfinder]

To be fair, NO CLASS is DPS. DPS is a statistic measure of your damage output. No class is a "damage per second", that's why ff11 had it right by calling them DDs, damage dealers. And yes Bard is a DD class, but at the same time they're not. They're a Damage Support class, or DPS Support if you prefer.

Sophistry.

The whole DPS vs DD debate was settled long ago. Perhaps it went to calling them DD (but what do you call DoT classes then?) in FF11, but in the majority of MMO's they were called DPS and have been for well over a decade.

Every class puts out some kind of DPS. Those whose role it is to put out damage primarily, whether it be melee, ranged, nuke, or DoT, are referred to as DPS. Those whose role is not to put out damage, but instead to soak it up, are referred to as Tanks. Those whose role is not to put out damage, but to heal it, are referred to as Healers.

So why not call them DD instead of DPS? Because DD refers to a type of spell, as well : Direct Damage. Also referred to as Nukes, they are damage applied instantaneously after the spell is cast. Their counterpart is the Damage over Time spell, or DoT. These spells do damage gradually, over the course of the spell effect.

DPS refers to what those classes do, and is also the measure of how well they do it. DD may refer to what some classes do, but it does not refer to how they all do it.

[Dgsoil]

Sophistry.

The whole DPS vs DD debate was settled long ago. Perhaps it went to calling them DD (but what do you call DoT classes then?) in FF11, but in the majority of MMO's they were called DPS and have been for well over a decade.

Every class puts out some kind of DPS. Those whose role it is to put out damage primarily, whether it be melee, ranged, nuke, or DoT, are referred to as DPS. Those whose role is not to put out damage, but instead to soak it up, are referred to as Tanks. Those whose role is not to put out damage, but to heal it, are referred to as Healers.

So why not call them DD instead of DPS? Because DD refers to a type of spell, as well : Direct Damage. Also referred to as Nukes, they are damage applied instantaneously after the spell is cast. Their counterpart is the Damage over Time spell, or DoT. These spells do damage gradually, over the course of the spell effect.

DPS refers to what those classes do, and is also the measure of how well they do it. DD may refer to what some classes do, but it does not refer to how they all do it.

Completely irrelevant post to the subject, but as the person you quoted said, in 11 it was used to mean "Damage Dealer" instead of "Direct Damage"
Obviously this isn't important to the majority of MMO players and I personally have no issue with the DPS tag, it's what the creators chose for us so it's what is right. Just next time you decide to talk down to someone at least read what they said. Ktnxbailuvu!

[Wildsprite]

So why not call them DD instead of DPS? Because DD refers to a type of spell, as well : Direct Damage. Also referred to as Nukes, they are damage applied instantaneously after the spell is cast.

except most of the people I know call what you call "Direct Damage" "Burst Damage" and still call their DPS classes/jobs DD as in "Damage Dealers" because quite frankly DPS is a BS term when referring to classes/jobs like Arcanist and Summoner. BLM and WHM do Burst Damage spells MNK and WAR do Burst Damage actions
that debate you mentioned was never really settled and it wont be because too many people disagree with your usage of the terms