Glamours and Gear Preview (03/20/2014)

[MCS]

There is no reason for restricting access to vanity behind a level 50 quest wall. None. It is 100% arbitrary.

There is also no reason to rage over this kind of things, you will get 50 very fast. Is it silly the devs put lv50 quest wall? Yes, but i wouldnt get too worked up over it and save my breathe to complain on more urgent things, we have voiced our concern over this, there is no need to keep arguing with each other.

[Andres_Lonegrief]

There's one thing I'm missing. We will need particular glamour prisms to cast this "spell", but ...

Will we really need to purchase a prisms for each single gear we want to change? I understood that these prisms will be available via crafting, so there will not be any NPC shop selling them: I'm afraid of the price crafters will be selling them at. I know that this is the way "the game economy" works, but the more I read about this vanity system, the more I just wish they didn't come up with something so complicated.

[Thaliss]

There's one thing I'm missing. We will need particular glamour prisms to cast this "spell", but ...

Will we really need to purchase a prisms for each single gear we want to change? I understood that these prisms will be available via crafting, so there will not be any NPC shop selling them: I'm afraid of the price crafters will be selling them at. I know that this is the way "the game economy" works, but the more I read about this vanity system, the more I just wish they didn't come up with something so complicated.

It will be probably like dyes all crafters will be able to do the prisms.
The 1st ones made will be expensive but then it will all go down. Depends on what is needed to craft it.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

There is also no reason to rage over this kind of things, you will get 50 very fast. Is it silly the devs put lv50 quest wall? Yes, but i wouldnt get too worked up over it and save my breathe to complain on more urgent things, we have voiced our concern over this, there is no need to keep arguing with each other.

We have a perfectly good reason to voice our displeasure over SE making an idiotic move like this.

A vanity system is usually something EVERYONE has access to as soon as they get to whoever can teach them to use the vanity system or they get to an npc who does the vanity junk. TERA lets you vanity as soon as you get to Velika (or the other two major cities), which could be level 11 or even level 1, if you have a teleport scroll, for example. An older game I played let you vanity things as soon as you could find a player with the appropriate skill for it. I have NEVER seen a vanity system of all things locked behind a ridiculous restriction like this.

If it was level 15, then sure. Dye quest is level 15, and that isn't all that problematic, you can hit 15 within a day or two AND it's a reasonably low level to access something like dyes. But locking a vanity system tons of people have been looking forward to since 2.0 behind the LEVEL CAP? How does that make any sense? How is that fair to anyone? As Naunet said, why should people be forced to get to level cap JUST to access something as bloody simple as a VANITY SYSTEM, which has NO gameplay advantage nor any fathomable reason to be locked behind level 50. It isn't like you won't be able to use level 50 gear or lower to vanity over endgame gear once you hit 50, so why restrict it like this for lower level players? Why do they need to be forced to rush to end game just so they can enjoy a VANITY system?

And before someone says "well they don't HAVE to use it", yes they don't, but what if they WANT to? What if they want to be able to wear nice outfits they got while leveling while they're lower level? Why should they be excluded from this? SE's choice makes absolutely no sense, though I don't know why I'm surprised. They've been making a lot of bad choices for a while now.

[Naunet]

There is also no reason to rage over this kind of things, you will get 50 very fast. Is it silly the devs put lv50 quest wall? Yes, but i wouldnt get too worked up over it and save my breathe to complain on more urgent things, we have voiced our concern over this, there is no need to keep arguing with each other.

Why shouldn't I protest a system that I feel could use improvement? That's how we get a better product. Saying nothing is worse than potentially overreacting in this case.

As I've said before, it doesn't matter how quickly it takes to get to 50, especially when being unable to change the look of my gear on certain characters is actually disincentivizing me from playing them entirely.

Will we really need to purchase a prisms for each single gear we want to change? I understood that these prisms will be available via crafting, so there will not be any NPC shop selling them: I'm afraid of the price crafters will be selling them at. I know that this is the way "the game economy" works, but the more I read about this vanity system, the more I just wish they didn't come up with something so complicated.

Yes, it really is that complicated and moreso. Not only do you need to find the correct grade of prism (corresponding to an ilvl bracket), you also need the prism crafted by the class that can repair the armor type. Yay for bloated complexity, huh? Not...

stop whinning.

What an excellent counterpoint! Especially when paired with telling me how I feel without actually knowing how I feel.

[kukurumei]

Why shouldn't I protest a system that I feel could use improvement? That's how we get a better product. Saying nothing is worse than potentially overreacting in this case.

As I've said before, it doesn't matter how quickly it takes to get to 50, especially when being unable to change the look of my gear on certain characters is actually disincentivizing me from playing them entirely.



Yes, it really is that complicated and moreso. Not only do you need to find the correct grade of prism (corresponding to an ilvl bracket), you also need the prism crafted by the class that can repair the armor type. Yay for bloated complexity, huh? Not...

Or...stand next to the AH...

While it does make for messy on the fly glamor, and preview is a little rough, it's all backend. You just don't feel giving gil to crafters, stop whinning.

If they made it like materia, then a higher grade can be substituted in event you don't have a lower grade available.

[micropanther7]

Seriously not happy about the quest level to unlock glamours being level 50. I'm at 47 so it's not like I can't get to 50 by release, but it's the principle of all these restrictions. Also does it become available once your character reaches level 50 or only when you finish the main scenario level 50 quests like it was with the Unicorn mount at 30(?) This concerns me because I ground F.A.T.Es to get to the upper 40's so I could get all the Lightning Event gear and am now working my way back through the storyline.

Or, like myself, I LIKE to level sloooowly (yes I'm in the minority these days I know), so unlocking one lvl 50 character's gonna take me awhile I don't mind working for stuff, but locking the the content until lvl 50 just seems, as others have said, a bit dumb.

[Ildur]

The Holy Authors have Spoken, and the mindless zealots bowed their heads and licked the Authors' boots with great joy.

Arbitrary restrictions are not interesting. They are not masterstrokes. They are not innovation. They don't make the game better. They just make the game poorer and stupider. If that's the game you want to play and pay for, that's fine. Some of us don't want that kind of game. There's no reason to have ARR be that kind of game and so we complain.

Stop whinning about our whinning. Because "stop whinning" is the best argument EVUR.

[PArcher]

The Holy Authors have Spoken, and the mindless zealots bowed their heads and licked the Authors' boots with great joy.

Arbitrary restrictions are not interesting. They are not masterstrokes. They are not innovation. They don't make the game better. They just make the game poorer and stupider. If that's the game you want to play and pay for, that's fine. Some of us don't want that kind of game. There's no reason to have ARR be that kind of game and so we complain.

Stop whinning about our whinning. Because "stop whinning" is the best argument EVUR.

What's the point of leveling then? What's the point of getting new gear, for Vanity or Use? Why are you playing?

[Tandy]

The Holy Authors have Spoken, and the mindless zealots bowed their heads and licked the Authors' boots with great joy.

I think thats probably the most overly melodramatic thing I have read today. It brings to mind flavors of a totalitarian regime, or maybe a theocracy lol. Way too big of a sentence to use when it comes to a vanity system in a video game....you should have saved it for another day!