Retainers, confirmed, you have to pay for them.

[Samburi]

Or put in the the option to buy them with 2$/month or 75$ once (if you plan to play more than 3 years)

[Doo]

You pay about a third less than us non-legacy folk and even half less than us EU non-legacy folk, and you complain about the $2 extra you don't even have to pay if you do not want to?!

They are going to make it so you want to pay for them. A majority of players will feel like they need it. That's how F2P games work with their cash shops. They create this "I need this in order to not feel like I'm missing a benefit of the game" This is pretty much a bump in monthly sub price for most and the ones that don't do it will feel like they aren't getting the full benefits of the game.

[Samburi]

They are going to make it so you want to pay for them. A majority of players will feel like they need it. That's how F2P games work with their cash shops. They create this "I need this in order to not feel like I'm missing a benefit of the game" This is pretty much a bump in monthly sub price for most and the ones that don't do it will feel like they aren't getting the full benefits of the game.

second character in the same FC + FC storage = no need to buy extra retainer if you don't want it.
And if you pay 6 months in a row the standard account don't cost more than the basic account.

[Xairos]

They are going to make it so you want to pay for them. A majority of players will feel like they need it. That's how F2P games work with their cash shops. They create this "I need this in order to not feel like I'm missing a benefit of the game" This is pretty much a bump in monthly sub price for most and the ones that don't do it will feel like they aren't getting the full benefits of the game.

This is what i mean by fear from a preconceived "slippery slope". We have no clue if they will "make us" have to buy more, yet people speak as if this is fact. I don't plan on buy and guess what? I'll be doing coil, and Leviathan, and all the other content because i can.

All of this hate is predicated on a unfounded fear. Just because other mmos (f2p ones) have done it does it mean this one will? In all complete truth, we will have to wait and see. Is there anything wrong with waiting? no.

[Niota]

I am a hoarder/crafter and I would love more space. I'd also have more space if more of my weps/armor could FIT into the armoire. That aside, the big issue here is the fact your retainers go on ventures and collect items... So basically SE-condonned player RMT-style farming depending on what is farmed and the max # of retainers one can buy per character.

[Mcshiggs]

Retainers will be able to obtain gil, crafting materials, and minions unique to the 18 hour ventures, pretty similar to treasure maps, so being able to pay to double your retainers to me would be like the ability to pay real money to double your treasure map allowance, only this gets you more storage and market board space too. So many times they have said things like storage restrictions were put into place because of server memory, they are bragging all the time that this game is soooo profitable for them, but what, they can't pay for their own hardware upgrades and maintenance? Now we not only have to pay subs, but also pay to expand their servers, once enough people jump to other games because of things like this and they will then have more than enough space, do you think they will keep charging for stuff like this?

[Doo]

second character in the same FC + FC storage = no need to buy extra retainer if you don't want it.

You think these retainers will sell like hot cakes? I sure do.

It's something no one really needs.

No one needs, but watch when almost everyone in your ls has them. Maybe even more than one.

[Starlord]

They are going to make it so you want to pay for them. A majority of players will feel like they need it. That's how F2P games work with their cash shops. They create this "I need this in order to not feel like I'm missing a benefit of the game" This is pretty much a bump in monthly sub price for most and the ones that don't do it will feel like they aren't getting the full benefits of the game.

It's something no one really needs. If they get it, that's thier choice, but you really don't need a 3rd hell, I got by with just 1 retainer for 4 months before activating my second. (currently sitting at 166 free spaces in total).

[Lord_Zlatan]

They are going to make it so you want to pay for them. A majority of players will feel like they need it. That's how F2P games work with their cash shops. They create this "I need this in order to not feel like I'm missing a benefit of the game" This is pretty much a bump in monthly sub price for most and the ones that don't do it will feel like they aren't getting the full benefits of the game.

maybe. I can see this only if the retainer ventures feature can be maximized only by using paid for retainers. Even so though... to me its just a "whatever" feature. There is no denying that some people will freakout about it.

[Ninix]

People going on about how this is a "slippery slope" are silly. This is very much in line with how they ran FFXIV 1.0 and FFXI for years and years.

I don't really see the issue, two retainers already provides for more space than 99% of the playerbase could ever want or need. The remaining 1% can fork over an extra $2, it's not the end of the world.

I have a bunch of level 50s, a ton of gear for them, several crafts at 50, and a shitload of mats I may or may not ever use. And I'm still not in danger of running out of room.