Glamours and Gear Preview (03/20/2014)

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

It probably works like dyes. You can make all sorts of dyes on your main character, send all the dyes to your alts, doesn't mean they can use it until they can unlock the quest (sucks that it has to be 50 though).

Yea I'd say getting to 50 is a bit far off, but then again, getting your first 50 is easy too. And it's something to strive for if someone is fresh to the game no? Not gonna complain though since I have alts too, just happy that it is actually here

Did you mean to say it doesn't mean they can't use it until 50, or what you said in your post? (Just want to make sure that was/wasn't a typo, it's early in the morning and my brain is tired)

[chocomaid]

Did you mean to say it doesn't mean they can't use it until 50, or what you said in your post? (Just want to make sure that was/wasn't a typo, it's early in the morning and my brain is tired)

I re-read it again and it doesn't seem like a typo, or I'm just brain-dead since it's morning XD

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I re-read it again and it doesn't seem like a typo, or I'm just brain-dead since it's morning XD

Mostly asking since, while the sentence itself would make sense, comparing it to dyes doesn't make sense in that context is all. Dyes can't be applied until you get the quest, but that quest is a relatively low-level quest (level 15 I believe? idk. Orange juice). But a glamour prism seems like it will be a physical item you put on once you add equipment to the glamour. So does that mean you can't "equip" the glamour prism item until you unlock the quest to MAKE glamour prism items, or CAN you equip it BEFORE 50, but just not MAKE a prism item until 50?

orz my head hurts thinking about all this

SE why make it 50. Seriously. That's all this boils down to for me is just a really bad decision for glamour.

[Daemon_Windborne]

Mostly asking since, while the sentence itself would make sense, comparing it to dyes doesn't make sense in that context is all. Dyes can't be applied until you get the quest, but that quest is a relatively low-level quest (level 15 I believe? idk. Orange juice). But a glamour prism seems like it will be a physical item you put on once you add equipment to the glamour. So does that mean you can't "equip" the glamour prism item until you unlock the quest to MAKE glamour prism items, or CAN you equip it BEFORE 50, but just not MAKE a prism item until 50?

orz my head hurts thinking about all this

SE why make it 50. Seriously. That's all this boils down to for me is just a really bad decision for glamour.

Prisms aren't equipped, they're consumed like a dye. So I imagine it will be like the dyes, you can obtain as many as you want, but before you unlock via the quest they can't be used.

[SendohJin]

orz my head hurts thinking about all this

SE why make it 50. Seriously. That's all this boils down to for me is just a really bad decision for glamour.

how many different sets are there to glamour under 50 anyway?

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

how many different sets are there to glamour under 50 anyway?

Plenty, if you try to make good outfit combinations. I'm a vanity whore, I need all my alts to look pretty. And a lot of the armor in the game isn't pretty, so I'd rather like to replace them with things that ARE pretty. Like replacing my AF2 gear look on Dragoon with the original AF gear's look. I don't want to be a neon sign.

50s can make prisms (as long as they have the appropriate craft)
50s can send prisms like you can do with dyes
50s can't prism an item then send it to an alt (since it spiritbinds it)

lowbie alts can store the prisms in their bags I believe (like you can do with dyes)
lowbie alts won't be able to use said prisms until the quest is completed at 50

With those rules, lowbies cannot glamour in any way until they complete the quest.

Prisms aren't equipped, they're consumed like a dye. So I imagine it will be like the dyes, you can obtain as many as you want, but before you unlock via the quest they can't be used.

And this is where I continue to be sorely disappointed with this system.

It could've easily been made available to lower levels. I see very little reason to make it locked behind level 50 when it's something ALL level ranges would want.

[SendohJin]

Plenty, if you try to make good outfit combinations. I'm a vanity whore, I need all my alts to look pretty. And a lot of the armor in the game isn't pretty, so I'd rather like to replace them with things that ARE pretty. Like replacing my AF2 gear look on Dragoon with the original AF gear's look. I don't want to be a neon sign.

both of those pieces are Lv 50

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

both of those pieces are Lv 50

It was an example.

I could also take the plundered set from the three early dungeons (Sastasha, TamTara, Copperbell) as a glamour set. In fact, I'd planned to for one of my characters. Don't get stuck up on the fact the EXAMPLE I mentioned involved two level 50 items. I've been planning to use my old AF set as vanity since I heard of the system, thus why I used it as an example.

To all these people complaining about the quest being level 50 I have one word....SERIOUSLY?!?!? Without much effort most people can easily take a character from level 1 - 50 in about a week through spamming dungeons.

The problem is that why SHOULD it be locked behind 50? Every level range would want to make use of this, there is literally no reason to lock it behind 50 when it's something like VANITY. Vanity systems in other games are available as soon as you get to the first major city. What SE's doing is ridiculous and makes no sense.

[chocomaid]

Mostly asking since, while the sentence itself would make sense, comparing it to dyes doesn't make sense in that context is all. Dyes can't be applied until you get the quest, but that quest is a relatively low-level quest (level 15 I believe? idk. Orange juice). But a glamour prism seems like it will be a physical item you put on once you add equipment to the glamour. So does that mean you can't "equip" the glamour prism item until you unlock the quest to MAKE glamour prism items, or CAN you equip it BEFORE 50, but just not MAKE a prism item until 50?

orz my head hurts thinking about all this

SE why make it 50. Seriously. That's all this boils down to for me is just a really bad decision for glamour.

50s can make prisms (as long as they have the appropriate craft)
50s can send prisms like you can do with dyes
50s can't prism an item then send it to an alt (since it spiritbinds it)

lowbie alts can store the prisms in their bags I believe (like you can do with dyes)
lowbie alts won't be able to use said prisms until the quest is completed at 50

With those rules, lowbies cannot glamour in any way until they complete the quest.