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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    Joeking made it clear there isn't a door to hit me. Here's a novel idea, leave for 2 years and come back once its accrued 2 years of improvements while we are playing as the improvements are coming in, we will have enjoyed it for 2 years because 1.18 is the START OF THE FUN WEEEEEEE!
    This is mostly due to wolfies points, something he could put much better than me, and has, in many threads.

    To a degree, to any reasonable minded player - whos actually followed all of the rep and dev replys - the amount of issues they have with the game engines build is something that would within reason be resolved alot quicker with a down time.

    Its not unreasonable at all.

    This has nothing to do with 1.18.
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    Last edited by Kam; 06-23-2011 at 11:44 AM.

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    the amount of issues they have with the game engines build is something that would within reason be acheived alot quicker with a down time.
    Explain how you draw this conclusion?
    They already have their own servers to work on before they publish changes. Not to mention the enormous amount of feedback / bug reports they're getting now helps shape the game into (hopefully) something everyone can enjoy. Sure, taking the game down would mean no more forum stupidity, but it'd also mean zero game feedback and bug reports -- a valuable resource they're getting for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaltus View Post
    Seriously? its this sort of doom and gloom thread that makes me want to stick my fingers in my ears and scream LALALALALA... or the internet equivalent there of. SE hasnt been giving us trickling updates, they've barely touched the game for months beyound the odd tweak. Either they are holding back content they have been/are working on or they arent doing anything and if they arent doing anything i'm not seeing how taking the servers down will solve that problem.



    edit: Wait till 1.18 then complain.

    I honestly don't see how taking down the servers solves anything period. What do you gain by throwing your potential subscriber base to the curb and telling them "Hey guys just wait a year or two we promise it'll be better than any game that will poentially come out within that time, just wait for us".

    Incremental updates keep people playing and keep them wanting more. Shutting the servers off is a horrible idea and an irresponsible gamble at best.
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    "I know not what brings men joy. Of what drives them to great deeds, of what legacies they hope to leave, I know less yet. But I do know this: The true hero of this tale was the man forgotten."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balbanes View Post
    Explain how you draw this conclusion?
    They already have their own servers to work on before they publish changes. Not to mention the enormous amount of feedback / bug reports they're getting now helps shape the game into (hopefully) something everyone can enjoy. Sure, taking the game down would mean no more forum stupidity, but it'd also mean zero game feedback and bug reports -- a valuable resource they're getting for free.
    No ones arguing agaisnt an extended beta, you're focusing too much on in-game development over their many internal issues.

    Which DO hold this game back.

    I fail to understand how you can to mix the two together.
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    Alright, looks like people are taking this thread in a negative way instead of looking at how things would affect the game in the end. I'll be taking a nap now, thanks to all of you who contributed to this topic, I appreciate the talk.

    Goodnight and goodluck to you all!
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    I'd rather them just take the forums offline, it will have the same effect as taking the game offline. You take the game away, the forums will be pointless.

    Either way, its not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    No ones arguing agaisnt an extended beta, you're focusing too much on in-game development over their many internal issues.

    Which DO hold this game back.

    I fail to understand how you can to mix the two together.
    I think you fail to understand the reason that there is Production and User Test environments.
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    "I know not what brings men joy. Of what drives them to great deeds, of what legacies they hope to leave, I know less yet. But I do know this: The true hero of this tale was the man forgotten."

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleEcho View Post
    I think you fail to understand the reason that there is Production and User Test environments.
    What?

    You know, they stated pretty much~
    The battle system we are going to get in 1.18 is the same battle system they will build on for years to come. You're thinking what is comming has been beta tested or something?

    If the game were up, or down. you would be getting the same system. And they will improve upon it in their own vision regardless of useless feedback.

    (This time around if you dont like it, please, jump ship.)
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    Last edited by Kam; 06-23-2011 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    if the game were up, or down. you would be getting the same system.
    Then why shut the servers off?
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    "I know not what brings men joy. Of what drives them to great deeds, of what legacies they hope to leave, I know less yet. But I do know this: The true hero of this tale was the man forgotten."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    No ones arguing agaisnt an extended beta, you're focusing too much on in-game development over their many internal issues.

    Which DO hold this game back.

    I fail to understand how you can to mix the two together.

    You really just side-stepped the question there. Explain how taking the live servers offline, with SE already having private test servers to work with, would hasten the development process.
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