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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    So since one company started a trend of screwing us, we should continue to just take it

    they could at least take me to dinner first
    The same can be said about anything where a precedent is set. SE is a business and if there's money that can be made while doing it without offending the majority of their playerbase they're damn sure going to do it.
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    Well said Oro
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    Until we have more information about how the Ventures work it is difficult to determine whether this could be P2W or not. If for example the gear the retainers wear increases in spirit bonding this would be a big problem, and allowing extra income in gil absolutely provides an endgame advantage early on. Many players which ignore gil as a factor may see this as having no advantage, but until you have full gear from T6-9 or new tomes (both being limited) it will matter.

    Assuming ilvl90 crafted gear can be penta-melded (think level V materia), if I have fully melded ilvl90 gear I will (initially) have a CLEAR gear advantage in endgame content over your full myth/allagan gear. All my tank gear could have max parry and accuracy capped, better than current BiS etc. Any boost in gil by paying real life dollars is paying to win, in this case, since materia prices will (probably) be very high. Once more info is revealed, it will become more clear whether there will be much of an advantage at all, but discounting the fact that this could in no way be pay (with rl dollars) to win (have an advantage over others with all else being equal) is just ignorant bliss. More facts are needed to make a true judgment of course, but this is just an example.
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    Ikara Dakra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    The same can be said about anything where a precedent is set. SE is a business and if there's money that can be made while doing it without offending the majority of their playerbase they're damn sure going to do it.
    you said the same thing again, we should just accept it because another company did it before

    this mindset needs to change among gamers as a whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    you said the same thing again, we should just accept it because another company did it before

    this mindset needs to change among gamers as a whole
    Answer this; would you rather there is zero possible way to change appearance or have the option of pay and change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Answer this; would you rather there is zero possible way to change appearance or have the option of pay and change?
    I would prefer that over a pay option yes, either way im not getting it and at least the one way it isnt getting dangled in front of me in an unfair way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    I would prefer that over a pay option yes, either way im not getting it and at least the one way it isnt getting dangled in front of me in an unfair way
    You are entitle to your opinion, however, majority of the population would love to disagree and many people were willing to pay for appear change. AS many said SE is a business and its purpose to made as much money as possible for the stockholder without pissing off the player too much while proving a good gaming experience. If there is a way to get more money without unbalancing the game and people were begging for it.... why not?
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