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    I think maybe we are overthinking the quote "unlocking the relic's true powers" here, my thought is that the relic itself is at its peak in zenith form and its "true power" is to be used to create a completely new weapon not relic anymore but something greater that can be built upon as the game progresses. This could very well be Zodiak or what ever crazy term used to descried the weapon but seeing as relic's are now zenith I can't see the new form being considered a relic anymore (more like the new weapon can only be acquired or created from a relic weapon in is "PEAK" or Zenith form).

    This would make more sense to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowrell_d-_-b View Post
    I think maybe we are overthinking the quote "unlocking the relic's true powers" here, my thought is that the relic itself is at its peak in zenith form and its "true power" is to be used to create a completely new weapon not relic anymore but something greater that can be built upon as the game progresses. This could very well be Zodiak or what ever crazy term used to descried the weapon but seeing as relic's are now zenith I can't see the new form being considered a relic anymore (more like the new weapon can only be acquired or created from a relic weapon in is "PEAK" or Zenith form).

    This would make more sense to me!
    Relic was the item itself restored

    Relic +1 was the relic, infused with spirits. You didn't actually unlock its "true power", you simply infuse it with stuff.

    What I don't get is why they got rid of +1 and favors "Zenith" suffix. But that's a different story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    Relic was the item itself restored

    Relic +1 was the relic, infused with spirits. You didn't actually unlock its "true power", you simply infuse it with stuff.

    What I don't get is why they got rid of +1 and favors "Zenith" suffix. But that's a different story
    Likely them going with the 'this isnt ffxi' that they keep saying, in order to get people to stop calling stuff by the ffxi term for the item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteXX View Post
    Likely them going with the 'this isnt ffxi' that they keep saying, in order to get people to stop calling stuff by the ffxi term for the item.
    Well my thought on that was they wanted the upgrade to be named, because just saying +1 gives no sense of ending. Zenith can mean upwards or the highest form. X Zenith is the highest that X can get. If the relics can be upgraded further, and they get a new name or transform into something else entirely, then it'd make sense.

    Instead of just calling it X +2.
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    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteXX View Post
    Likely them going with the 'this isnt ffxi' that they keep saying, in order to get people to stop calling stuff by the ffxi term for the item.


    the "+1/+2/+3" isn't exclusive to XI, it's from the "Final fantasy" series
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptolemy View Post
    the "+1/+2/+3" isn't exclusive to XI, it's from the "Final fantasy" series
    No, that term usage is from D&D (which in turn is the prime inspiration for FF1 to begin with) and from what I remember it was dropped very fast, i'm not sure there is even a single american release with that term use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptolemy View Post
    the "+1/+2/+3" isn't exclusive to XI, it's from the "Final fantasy" series
    I've never played FFXI, but I've never seen "+1" from any FF game from FFVII to FFXII (skipping FFXI ofc)

    I actually thought that +1 is a homage to the "Infinity +1 Sword" trope. It's a very nice little culture reference (for me, at least). After all the serious tones of other RPG games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    Relic was the item itself restored

    Relic +1 was the relic, infused with spirits. You didn't actually unlock its "true power", you simply infuse it with stuff.

    What I don't get is why they got rid of +1 and favors "Zenith" suffix. But that's a different story
    Next upgrade will start with y, then after that x...
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