Titan HM needs a change for those who can't devote all their time to this game.

[Yumi_umi]

So lol has anyone ever considered that buying a win could mean you just wanted to buy competent teammates?
Like i know its mind blowing if u pulled ur weight during a bought party cuz the more common method is you die = you stay dead.

[cearka]

DUTY FINDER.


there's your problem.

[Ryuko]

Can I just ask everyone (in general) a question...?

On your servers, are there often Titan (hard) PF groups? I occasionally join them and we get someone their relic within a few tries because most people joining the PF group are people joining just to help out. I realize this might be because I am on a high-population server... so that is why I'm wondering how other servers function and if Titan (hard) is really such a hurdle now that you can ask for help in PF. Most people I know are happy to help, although I will admit sometimes it turns into a clear carry if the new person dies often and people just want to get it done. Obviously, they didn't buy the run... but... they're going to run into problems down the road when they can't be carried through Titan (extreme)... at least not easily.

[Noahlimits]

Can I just ask everyone (in general) a question.

Honestly, on Gilgamesh, usually everyone gets carried in Titan HM PF. Usually parties just to help someone fill up fast, two people get slided off fairly early in the fight, and the other 6 carry the two non-relic'd people to victory. I've volunteered to solo heal or regular heal it multiple times and it always ends up the same way.

[Viridiana]

And, please, stop making it sounds like I said "the fight is the same". The fight isn't the same (the pattern isn't), but the vast majority of the mechanisms are the same.

You realize that, counter to what you said earlier, a lot of people *do* have to know the pattern ahead of time in order to be able to dodge, right? The mechanics can be basically the same all they want, if the pattern is way off it's going to be extremely difficult for certain people to dodge weights and landslides. How many deaths do they get through no fault of their own before you start assuming they were carried?

[Alcyon1]

You realize that, counter to what you said earlier, a lot of people *do* have to know the pattern ahead of time in order to be able to dodge, right? The mechanics can be basically the same all they want, if the pattern is way off it's going to be extremely difficult for certain people to dodge weights and landslides. How many deaths do they get through no fault of their own before you start assuming they were carried?

Oh I give up, I told you something about bombs, you are back with WOL and Landslides. Learn to read, gl & hf.

[Viridiana]

Oh I give up, I told you something about bombs, you are back with WOL and Landslides. Learn to read, gl & hf.

You started with WoL and LS. >_>

The patterns can be different, I don't have to know them to be able to dodge plumes, bombs and landslides vs TItan EX. During the first days of Titan EX, when I joined some groups via PF, it was easy to notice who was carried trough Titan HM from those who weren't.

You can change your tune now to only mean bombs, but you did originally include all three, and you never retracted your comments regarding WoL and LS. Since you never said anything along the lines of "Okay, I can see how WoL and LS could be a problem, but what about bombs?" I assume that you're still going to be judging people for dying to things it's physically impossible for them to react to.

[Alcyon1]

snip.

I (<--- this is me) don't have to know the pattern to dodge them. You (<-- this isn't me) might need to know the patterns to pre-dodge them. Did I say the opposite ? Do I need to talk about you(<-- this isn't me) when I'm talking about myself ?
And during the first few days, yes it was easy to spot who was carried, when they didn't even know what to do during bombs or, after 3-4 tries (groups weren't disbanding after 2 deaths), they were still killed by the exact same WOL/landslide. For a tank POV, the fight is really different. From a healer or DPS pow, the fight is really simiilar.

[Freddie]

I have been atleast 200+ attempts this week. Just came back from 2 months away. Que up in duty finder and go, main problem is DPS. Forget the getting hit by whatever it's all down to DPS. Even with three tier lb I've been in groups who can't get the heart down in time. Out of 200 tries maybe only 5 have got past the heart. Item level is just to low for us casuals. Level 41 weapons being used and still getting in...

[ValkyrieL]

Titan DF is for practice, u may one day kill it if a premade queues for it, if you are confident of your skills/mechanics join a PF group, even than some PF groups are title "EXP/Clear Only" but some BS their way to it, so even than it make a take a couple of DF group to actually get the kill.
Asking for nerf to HM is like asking for nerf to EX as well. if you can't beat titan HM, u have 0% chance of even coming close to beating Titan EX. HM is a test. Not everyone is meant to have a Relic weapon.

EDIT: Just keep practicing, there will be a point where the fight becomes a muscle memory/even if any1 claims to "Lag" odds are u will adapt to compensate the lag as well.