This Game needs more tank role jobs - [Dark Knight a good solution?]

[Tonkra]

This game (and mostly like every MMorpg) is lacking a lot of players who want to play tanks. Because many people enjoy to play the more offensive damage dealing role.
Dark Knight could be a class/job that is something in between, but which could also count as a tank role in the duty finder.

i know Dark Knight is some kind of more a damaging class but how about introducing this job as an offtank?


This game needs definatley more tank role classes/jobs. you wait more time for a tank than for healing classes.



The dark knight could be the pendant to paladin.

- 2Hand Scythe as a weapon
- Decent tanking
- single target damage skills (no AOEs like warrior)
- debuff/damaging spells like slow, paralyze, slowga, bio, life drain, Absorb int, absorb str., absorb con etc.
- less HP than Paladin and Warrior

and skills which lower his defense but increases his attack power (for the offtank role). absorb spells can grant him either more damage (absorb strength) or grant him more HP (absorb constitution) concerncing the situation and role.

it would make a tanking class more attractive to people who enjoy a more offensive style.


or of what other traditional Final Fantasy job you could think for further expansions to decrease the lack of tanking classes?

(Screenshot from Final Fantasy XI - Dark Knight)

[Sfarzoso]

Heh this was already... Spoiled in fact... I'd link you the source but I'm on mobile cause I am on the road today, with a bunch of friends... And we left Quebec for vacation in Florida ! ... So yeah DK was spoken as a possible tank future job with a greatsword for weapon. Youc an search on it or I am sure someone will link it!

[Pseudopsia]

So yeah DK was spoken as a possible tank future job with a greatsword for weapon.

Just like WoW's Deathknight? * Casts Hallowed Ground *

[Sfarzoso]

Just like WoW's Deathknight? * Casts Hallowed Ground *

Heh no idea I've not played wow lol.

[Tonkra]

@Sfarzoso

oh really?

Just like WoW's Deathknight? * Casts Hallowed Ground *

The Dark Knight in Final Fantasy 11 also had the opportunity between 2H sword and scythe.

although i'd like to see the Dark Knight in FF14 with scythe rather than with 2H sword... we already have swords in the game... and its so... conventional/boring... -.-


*votes for a Dark Knight with scythe* ... for more "darkness" ;XD

[Pseudopsia]

I prefer Scythe too.

[Sfarzoso]

@Sfarzoso

oh really?

The Dark Knight in Final Fantasy 11 also had the opportunity between 2H sword and scythe.

Technicly it had sword and shield access too, DK could tank in XI, I had a friend doing it. It's just the community decided to only accept it as a DD. But yeah there were concept art leaks out on some some site, which I saved on home PC. It was showing it with a greatsword, and there was rapier class too, looked either like dancer or redmage. The article spoke of both! I'll update source if I can find it again or once home in a week and half XD

[XNihili]

I wont' work IMHO. People who enjoy doing the DPS will use it as a DPS (there is even a PLD/WAR as DPS in the DPS forum) and when people need a real tank, they'll get a real tank.
Most people don't want to be creative or try to work around things, they want the fastest and most reliable way to win.
Just look at the Duty Finder asking for i75 for CT

[Delekth]

There could be 500 tank jobs and it wouldn't make any difference. People don't tank because it's stressful and people have no tolerance for someone learning a fight for the first time when it inconveniences their pursuit of some slightly higher numbers. Personally I really enjoy tanking but I don't do it in PUG's for the most part because either they won't take someone that doesn't know a fight or you get abuse if you happen to not act flawlessly. The only way to get more tanks is to either make the role pointless or for the community to adopt a better attitude.

[Tonkra]

I wont' work IMHO. People who enjoy doing the DPS will use it as a DPS (there is even a PLD/WAR as DPS in the DPS forum) and when people need a real tank, they'll get a real tank.
Most people don't want to be creative or try to work around things, they want the fastest and most reliable way to win.
Just look at the Duty Finder asking for i75 for CT

There could be 500 tank jobs and it wouldn't make any difference.

i dont think so at all.. i dont like to play warrior because i dont like pure melee classes... its boring for me. i need magic ullities to play with and stuff.
well i just can speak for myself.. i enjoy hybrid classes. which means a mixture between classes.

Like the Dark Knight is a hybrid between mage(blm),dd and tank.

There are many instances that dont need a heavy tank like pld. All 4 man instances in the lower, mid level and even in the highend levels.
And for instances like titan HM you dont really need 2 paladins for example. where an offtank like warrior and DRK can play their "damage" role.

for me personally a dark knight is much more attractive than a pure warrior. it would be a job where i really would try out a tank class. really.
warrior for example is too boring to me. i need more ullities... magic and stuff, you know? debuffing... poisoning whatever, while tanking could make it more interesting for me... who mostly enjoys dd or healing roles.

just tanking isnt enough for me. so it is also a question of available classes.


although monk is a dd class i dont enjoy it, because it is not my playstyle.