Your thoughts on the updated 2.2 news

[Gilthas]

Its an issue if SE decides to add more gear that occupies multiple slots. If in the future they make the best-in-slot chest/head item a robe, for example, people could only vanity another robe like darklight robe in its place but couldn't vanity things like AF onto it - and vice versa: if BiS is not a robe, but you really love the look of darklight robe, then you're out of luck.

Well, they did respond to the complaints about the tin can armor. One can only hope that they never re-use those models.

To me, putting in HM's of old dungeons is SE taking the lazy way out. They get to re-use 95% of the same location, tweak the drops and mobs a bit and put it out the door like its something oh so wonderful. Hint, its not.

The rest of it other than the vanity system? Mostly... meh.

You know what's the annoying part about these kinds of complaints? You pretend that HM dungeons are the only thing that they're adding and conveniently ignore that these come in addition to a new dungeon, 4 more levels of coil and a new primal fight.

[Tupsi]

Don't think they're ignoring it so much as it's pretty much what's going to "remain" after you're done with coil for the week and running leviathan and clearing the other one time only content.

[Gilthas]

Don't think they're ignoring it so much as it's pretty much what's going to "remain" after you're done with coil for the week and running leviathan and clearing the other one time only content.

So the two HM dungeons are the only thing that's going to remain? Even if you choose to limit your enjoyment of the game like that, you'll still be ignoring the new dungeon that they're adding with the two HM dungeons. It's just complaining for the sake of complaining.

[gornotck]

So now people can tank in a cowl instead of jousting equipment, due to the glamour system.

[Azurak]

The game does lack direction. I still dont know what the purpose of the game is. All I do is farm to get the next best gear to beat the next content that is just a -Hard- version of the previous content. I feel no accomplishment.

It's hard to explain... but the game lacks "substance"

Every gear feels worthless because it is replaced by something else quickly.....

[XanderOlivieri]

So now people can tank in a cowl instead of jousting equipment, due to the glamour system.

I don't think the Tanks can wear a Cowl, though no since the only way to Vanity a Cowl is to use another piece of armor that takes up both the head and body slots. The Vanity is also limited to just what you can legally wear as the character. As a Summoner I cannot wear my Scholar artifact gear as a Vanity set. I can however, wear the Harlequin Armor as Vanity over say my Crimson Armor.

[Zumi]

Don't think they're ignoring it so much as it's pretty much what's going to "remain" after you're done with coil for the week and running leviathan and clearing the other one time only content.

Now that old coil 1-5 and myth is uncapped you can gear up all your jobs to ilvl 90 as something to do as well. There will be plenty of stuff to do when 2.2 is launched.

[Huntington]

I have really mixed feelings about the progression system of this game...

I happen to be fortunate in that I know and play with a lot of dedicated people who can (and do) clear everything the game currently offers, so I am very excited to have new content to bang my head against. Yet, every day I hear from others how they are having the hardest time finding a group for their FIRST Extreme or T5 kill. =/ I empathize with them because, as casual-friendly as this game is supposed to be, it's very challenging for people who just don't have the time or the network of people to find a winning group. So... with a linear progression (such as Leviathan Extreme requiring people to clear other Extremes and Coil 6-9 requiring you to clear T5), it's very difficult for casual players to catch up to the CURRENT content... and I fear they will become discouraged by all this new stuff they can't touch yet, which will be bad for the game's overall health. The echo buff should help alleviate a lot of these situations, but I hope it won't become a new 2.1 where casual players hit a wall at some point and have major difficulty passing it. The 2.1 wall seemed to be Titan Extreme, where casual players had extreme difficulty finding a winning group unless they had a helpful LS/FC.

Yeah I think for myself I've done Garuda Extreme at least 100 times and haven't finished it once. I have no experience with Ifrit EM or Titan EM, but Garuda EM is easy for me by this point. Despite that, I've only met one or two competent parties out of all those tries that could have beaten it, but each time someone has to leave or take off, I repeatedly don't get anything done. I'm just now hearing that Leviathan EM requires you to beat the others first so that's really nice to hear /sarcasm.

[Nekodar]

Yeah I think for myself I've done Garuda Extreme at least 100 times and haven't finished it once. I have no experience with Ifrit EM or Titan EM, but Garuda EM is easy for me by this point. Despite that, I've only met one or two competent parties out of all those tries that could have beaten it, but each time someone has to leave or take off, I repeatedly don't get anything done. I'm just now hearing that Leviathan EM requires you to beat the others first so that's really nice to hear /sarcasm.

I haven't seen anything certain about Levi EM requiring current EM's beaten to take on...

[Doo]

Not much variety, just more of the same.